Libraries!

by Estarra

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Morik2005-09-19 01:39:09
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 19 2005, 09:33 AM)
Saying something that's completely untrue or based on false premises.  Like that Balach is a desert, as a random example.
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Please cogitate over "false premises" and where you'd draw the line. I'm sure some in Celest would want the Glomdoring view of their untainted commune marked as "incorrect", for example.

Or, here's a few:

* The light is bad and pushes people into a belief system in contrast to their own
* The turtles harm the ocean ecology and should be slain
* Viravain was never 'infected' by any spirit of Kethuru, she just had her eyes 'opened' to the beauty and strength in nature around her

All these are right. All these are not right, by some degree.

The last is especially important, as it is the "view" (IIRC) of Viravain and the Glomdoring, and part of the whole RP is that others saw a different event (ie, Viravain being "corrupted" by the spirit of Kethuru, right there in front of their eyes.)

Ah, imagine the historical debates in the future when us old-timers finally pass the flame onto Lusternia: TNG.
Morik2005-09-19 01:41:41
QUOTE(Xavius @ Sep 19 2005, 09:35 AM)
But most things are common to all organizations. The Elder Gods, biodiversity in the Basin, structure of the planes, and the like. If it's a work of fiction, there can be stories that are simply bad. Shallow plot, unresolved plot, flat characters, using Guido and Annabelle in anything except slapstick comedy, things like that.
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Yup! But there's definitely a group of writings covering history and "present" which can, and should (IMHO), be allowed to exist without being "critiqued" for "falsehood" when it simply is the view of the people around at the time.

Hey, cool. Perhaps Lusternia can now break out some philosophers!
Unknown2005-09-19 01:59:04
Here's a question!

I understand that once a book is published, if it is edited then the current copies -don't- change and they have to be re-copied.

Does the same apply for "unpublished", regular archived books? Hopefully not because that'd make adding new content to guild textbooks a little hard!
Estarra2005-09-19 02:04:37
QUOTE(Shou @ Sep 18 2005, 06:59 PM)
Here's a question!

I understand that once a book is published, if it is edited then it's current copies -don't- change and it they have to be re-copied.

Does the same apply for "unpublished", regular archived books? Hopefully not because that'd make adding new content to guild textbooks a little hard!


The way it works is that when any book is edited, all copies everywhere are likewise edited (such is the magic of bookbinding!).

When a published book is edited, all copies are edited and there is no need to re-copy.

BTW, the help files were put up on a rush basis, mostly because it was either that or holding off on releasing libraries. (I'll admit I am exhausted right now and just want this project to end--it's been going on for weeks longer than I thought it would and has caused numerous problems and ill will among the admin.)

So in any event, don't be surprised to see the help files change throughout the week as we get a handle on it!
Estarra2005-09-19 02:10:55
QUOTE(Shamarah @ Sep 18 2005, 06:21 PM)
One question about criticising - the help file seems to say that it is mostly just for bad grammar and OOC.  Does this mean we can't criticise for simply bad or inaccurate content?  Because that seems like it'd be the most important part - I can't imagine many books with atrocious grammar/spelling will make it past the Librarian, so critiquing based on content would seem to be the best way to damage another library and hurt the book in general... right?  Can we do this?


I don't know how we'll deal with criticisms about content. We'll clarify as time goes on.

Needless to say, opinions stated as opinions and theories stated as theories will most likely be immune from any criticism about the content.
Unknown2005-09-19 02:11:31
Ahh, well that's even better! Thanks Estarra

Edit: Oh oh another question. Are Bardic entries (including the ones that won and are on the website) allowed to be put in libraries?
Unknown2005-09-19 02:22:56
QUOTE(Shou @ Sep 19 2005, 02:11 AM)
Edit: Oh oh another question. Are Bardic entries (including the ones that won and are on the website) allowed to be put in libraries?
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Aye, I remember one the staff saying in a previous topic that bardics could be submitted to libraries and vice versa.
Goyel2005-09-19 02:24:04
Estarra, and all the Other admin:
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From: Everyone.
Unknown2005-09-19 02:56:38
Yay, time to work on my alchemic theory textbook: Explosives, Money and YOU, a literary work by Selthar Moonleaf.
Nokraenom2005-09-19 02:58:59
The library system looks amazing. Thanks for all the hard work! cheers.gif

Now to see what I can do about making Magnagora the dominant literary power in the Basin as well. Muahahah! nihilist.gif -> pureevil.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 03:09:05
I think the Wilde will be the dominant culture in the Basin. We hold places 1, 2, and 4 in topguilds. Sorry, there's just no contest. smile.gif
Shorlen2005-09-19 03:10:01
QUOTE(Estarra @ Sep 18 2005, 10:10 PM)
I don't know how we'll deal with criticisms about content. We'll clarify as time goes on.

Needless to say, opinions stated as opinions and theories stated as theories will most likely be immune from any criticism about the content.
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Please let us critize writing style, word usage, repetition, etc - not really spelling/grammar, but technique biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 03:12:29
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 18 2005, 10:10 PM)
Please let us critize writing style, word usage, repetition, etc - not really spelling/grammar, but technique biggrin.gif
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Aye - the general dynamics and flow of it. smile.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 03:16:24
QUOTE(Estarra @ Sep 19 2005, 12:10 PM)
I don't know how we'll deal with criticisms about content. We'll clarify as time goes on.

Needless to say, opinions stated as opinions and theories stated as theories will most likely be immune from any criticism about the content.
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I can imagine some problems when Glomdoring publishes books about the non-existance of the Taint in their home forest, and the rest of the basin critiques their writers as insane.

I have faith in our Divinities/admins, though, and am sure you will all leave scope for organisational bias and cultural differences.
Nokraenom2005-09-19 03:17:39
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 18 2005, 09:09 PM)
I think the Wilde will be the dominant culture in the Basin.  We hold places 1, 2, and 4 in topguilds.
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Aye, I strongly dislike the culture system at first glance, but I prefer to wait and see how it plays out before passing judgment on that. The Seren guilds have dominated the novice scores since the game opened, largely due to the inherent attraction of players to them, not necessarily (in my opinion, having tried the guilds) to the efforts of the people in them. I've found people to be equally, if not moreso, helpful in other guilds. I think a lot of folks just go "Ooh, Moondancer, neat name, I'll play that!" tongue.gif

The library system itself is, however, absolutely amazing.

Unknown2005-09-19 03:19:24
QUOTE(Nokraenom @ Sep 18 2005, 10:17 PM)
Aye, I strongly dislike the culture system at first glance, but I prefer to wait and see how it plays out before passing judgment on that. The Seren guilds have dominated the novice scores since the game opened, largely due to the inherent attraction of players to them, not necessarily (in my opinion, having tried the guilds) to the efforts of the people in them. I've found people to be equally, if not moreso, helpful in other guilds. I think a lot of folks just go "Ooh, Moondancer, neat name, I'll play that!"  tongue.gif

The library system itself is, however, absolutely amazing.
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Aye. Well, given the rather high lead the Moondancers have on anyone (which is Hartstone in second), I imagine the Wilde will be getting it for a while.

HOWEVER. It's only 100 pts. It's not the end-all be-all of the Culture system. smile.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 03:19:45
I'm loving the libraries so far. Hehe I'm even published in ours *strut*

..okay so it's not that good. Watch it get critiqued into the ground *laugh*


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Oh yeah..and in case I didn't say it before wub.gif Libraries!!!
Unknown2005-09-19 03:24:32
EDIT: Silly me, didn't bother reading the second page before posting user posted image
Sekreh2005-09-19 04:09:24
QUOTE(Temporary_Guido @ Sep 18 2005, 09:03 PM)
Normally I would say this one reason this is so good is because it allows organizations with less good fighters to still remain on par with or even surpass more combat-oriented cities.

But Magnagora has the best writers, too. So HAH!

(Kidding, of course. I think the communes have good writers too. Celest, however, is illiterate)
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What about rogue writers? ninja.gif
Viravain2005-09-19 05:57:54
Rogues are left out of many things, Sekreh.