Libraries!

by Estarra

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Unknown2005-09-19 05:58:23
But not divine punishment. cookie.gif
Shorlen2005-09-19 06:08:43
QUOTE(Viravain @ Sep 19 2005, 01:57 AM)
Rogues are left out of many things, Sekreh.
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Like village influencing! Perhaps they shouldn't be - rogues should be allowed to influence a village for anarchy. Instead of getting influence skills with CR, they get skills based on how many organizations they are enemied to. Guilds are worth one 'point,' cities are worth two 'points.' 6 points for the first skill, 12 points for the second, and 18 for the third. If they succeed in swaying a village, the villagers attack everyone they see, and sack Trader Bob's store for supplies once per Weave.
Jitwix2005-09-19 06:15:07
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 19 2005, 08:08 AM)
Like village influencing! Perhaps they shouldn't be - rogues should be allowed to influence a village for anarchy. Instead of getting influence skills with CR, they get skills based on how many organizations they are enemied to. Guilds are worth one 'point,' cities are worth two 'points.' 6 points for the first skill, 12 points for the second, and 18 for the third. If they succeed in swaying a village, the villagers attack everyone they see, and sack Trader Bob's store for supplies once per Weave.
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Best idea I've heard in a long time, Shorlen. thumup.gif

Oh, libraries are great. wub.gif Now Jitwix can actually have useful contributions to society
Tsuki2005-09-19 06:23:57
I'm such a librarian ...

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LIBRARY SET
The librarian can reset the access level (public, restricted, secret) and
subjects of a book. Books can have multiple subjects (or key words) to
help with cross-referencing and searching.


My immediate concern from that is the controlled vocabulary of subject headings! Different world, so using LCSH or Dewey wouldn't work, so librarians are going to be able to create a basic classification scheme.

Or ... they won't?! crying.gif

Yeah, I was tempted to take Advanced Cataloging. I think I'm crazy ... unsure.gif


Library is wub.gif
Shorlen2005-09-19 06:33:20
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Sep 19 2005, 02:23 AM)
I'm such a librarian ...
My immediate concern from that is the controlled vocabulary of subject headings! Different world, so using LCSH or Dewey wouldn't work, so librarians are going to be able to create a basic classification scheme.

Or ... they won't?! crying.gif

Yeah, I was tempted to take Advanced Cataloging. I think I'm crazy ...  unsure.gif
Library is  wub.gif
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Tsu, dear, Library Science major person, BE OUR LIBRARIAN! PLEASE! pray.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 06:34:25
ohmy.gif Isn't she busy with, you know, guild things? tongue.gif
Estarra2005-09-19 06:36:21
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 18 2005, 08:09 PM)
I think the Wilde will be the dominant culture in the Basin.  We hold places 1, 2, and 4 in topguilds.  Sorry, there's just no contest. smile.gif
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For cultural activity, it is true that Serenwilde has an advantage. However, cultural activity is only a part of the cultural score. Once the system gets going, I guestimate the scores will be in the 2-3k range, though it may be a few game years before the impact of libraries upon culture will be seen. In the meantime, that's all the more reason to improve membership scores and make sure guilds are novice friendly!
Nyla2005-09-19 06:44:53
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Sep 19 2005, 01:23 AM)
I'm such a librarian ...
My immediate concern from that is the controlled vocabulary of subject headings! Different world, so using LCSH or Dewey wouldn't work, so librarians are going to be able to create a basic classification scheme.

Or ... they won't?! crying.gif

Yeah, I was tempted to take Advanced Cataloging. I think I'm crazy ...  unsure.gif
Library is  wub.gif
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We should get together and create a Lusternia version of the LC... Librarian Power!
Tsuki2005-09-19 06:48:07
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Sep 19 2005, 02:33 AM)
Tsu, dear, Library Science major person, BE OUR LIBRARIAN! PLEASE! pray.gif
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Heh, only if Nejii would appoint me and Sylphas or Terenas confirm that could I be our librarian hide.gif

Hmm, and Kalo thinks I don't/can't multitask? wink.gif

Seriously, though, I'd be happy if I could just be an aide, and work on establishing a controlled vocabulary classification scheme for subject headings. Such a good little library slave I am w00t.gif

I know I'm crazy. I'm taking Indexing & Abstracting this semester.


Edit: Oo! Nyla's a librarian type too! wub.gif

Edit2: And I just realized that none of you know the MLSer (Master's of Library Science ... our term for those of us within the program currently) joke of "library slave" ... oops? superninja.gif
Shorlen2005-09-19 06:54:34
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Sep 19 2005, 02:48 AM)
Heh, only if Nejii would appoint me and Sylphas or Terenas confirm that could I be our librarian hide.gif
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You're not the only applicant - send an application to Nejii if you want it, otherwise someone else will get it, and you can be her aide. Not that that's a bad thing biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 06:54:44
You're wierd, Tsuki. wub.gif
Eyod2005-09-19 13:07:12
Library Ninjas are scary.
Acrune2005-09-19 13:10:58
QUOTE(Rhysus @ Sep 18 2005, 09:15 PM)
It's almost amusing in a sad way how terrible the grammar and spelling is in the Library related helpfiles.
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Even I saw some of that too. Lets critique em! *capitalises Estarra's name*
Ialie2005-09-19 13:41:33
Silly question, but is it only limited to books? Can scrolls be archived as well?
Unknown2005-09-19 13:45:32
So as I work in dealing and re-sale of rare and used books does that make me the antithesis of a Librarian?
Jack2005-09-19 15:38:34
QUOTE(Estarra @ Sep 19 2005, 12:21 AM)
I thought there'd already be a thread up on libraries!

Well, I know it can be confusing, so post questions here if anything isn't clear.

Comments welcome too!
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Kiss me, you fewl! wub.gif
Unknown2005-09-19 22:05:59
QUOTE(Ialie @ Sep 19 2005, 09:41 AM)
Silly question, but is it only limited to books? Can scrolls be archived as well?
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Yes, can other text 'documents' be archivable as well please (if not already)? Or perhaps a new bookbinding skill that creates thin books (paper novels?), 15-20 pages maybe, so it'll be cheaper and won't be wasting too many pages (and while on this topic, pamphlets that are extended to 4 pages biggrin.gif). Of course, you (the Admin) are probably already busy and you should really take a break now, but maybe in the future! wink.gif
Nokraenom2005-09-19 23:05:52
"Books" that can be archived are any objects created by a Bookbinder to write upon, ranging from scrolls to tomes. So scrolls and such can already be archived into a library.
Unknown2005-09-20 00:03:28
Okay, a couple of quick questions for the admins.

Question 1

Since the help files haven't been 100% updated yet, will there be an ability to read a library book as long as you don't leave the room and the book is still there. It's hinted in the help file, but I don't know if that's true based on me trying to use the commands.

I'm not sure you should have to check out everything just as long as you stay in the room--kinda like the real libraries. Just wondering about the intent of that.

Question 2

How is the submission process for library books supposed to work? Do we have to hand deliver them to the librarian, or will there be some sort of automated submission process.

Question 3

If you wanted to indicate that there was a portrait, picture, landscape, sketch, comic, or diagram on a page of a book or next to an entry, how would you go about doing that while remaining "IC", so to speak? For instance, a "monster manual" is created with artwork of all the beasts in the land, or a who's who of Lusternia, along with portraits.

Estarra2005-09-20 00:10:34
QUOTE(Phred @ Sep 19 2005, 05:03 PM)
Question 1

Since the help files haven't been 100% updated yet, will there be an ability to read a library book as long as you don't leave the room and the book is still there.  It's hinted in the help file, but I don't know if that's true based on me trying to use the commands. 

I'm not sure you should have to check out everything just as long as you stay in the room--kinda like the real libraries.  Just wondering about the intent of that.



No. It was considered in an early design but eventually rejected.

QUOTE(Phred @ Sep 19 2005, 05:03 PM)
Question 2

How is the submission process for library books supposed to work?  Do we have to hand deliver them to the librarian, or will there be some sort of automated submission process.


Not sure what you mean by submission but everything goes through the librarian. You give your writing to the librarian who decides to archive it, whether or not to publish it, and (eventually) whether to choose it for submission to a realm-wide contest.

QUOTE(Phred @ Sep 19 2005, 05:03 PM)
Question 3

If you wanted to indicate that there was a portrait, picture, landscape, sketch, comic, or diagram on a page of a book or next to an entry, how would you go about doing that while remaining "IC", so to speak?  For instance, a "monster manual" is created with artwork of all the beasts in the land, or a who's who of Lusternia, along with portraits.


I don't know but its a good idea! ASCII art? Little descriptions in brackets? Anyone else have suggestions.