As I said, there should be a DISADVANTAGE for the raiding party and an ADVANTAGE for the defending team. This is present in Ethereal Serenwilde/Ethereal Glomdoring. It is not, however, found in Celestia or Nil.

I think making it so the enemy must pray if they die (at a cost of 1000p per hour) and that the defenders can all conglutinate is damn fair.

Really good. Only because I don't do doesn't mean I cant...ooooohhh....and WAIT....I actually defended a lot! Oh yeah, mighty Narsrim justm ight not have noticed me with his nose so high.

Whatever. We could make a bet. 800 credits. As soon as that thing comes into effect, there'll be at MOST 1 raid in a month. And that one half hearted and stops after the first death.

Oh, and sorry if I want to have the skills I payed money for, others didn't but that's their hard work and I admire that. But we aren't talking about -spores- now.

They still work off monoliths, my friend. You want that conglutinate doesn't work whatsover, that's different.

I paid money to trans druidry, but I can't forest on Earth, Water, or Etherglom.  I want this revoked.

Meh, there's 41 essence to gather? Hmm...oh right, maybe both planes together. Or even on one plane and I just don't hunt good enough. Still, makes my point even more valid.
And Shiro...guards and statues don't help much, they could still be attacked and killed.

I'm telling you right now that you cannot. I've lead teams against them, I know the damage they do, and I know how terribly from experience you heal. You'd get roasted and toasted in a hot second. And even though you have defended a lot, that's absolutely wonderful. It has nothing to do with raiding and the lack of disadvantage.

Furthermore, there is at best 1 raid on Celestia/Nil a month on average. If you read what I stated above, it would only apply on the cosmic planes.

And no, spores DO NOT WORK IF STANDING ON A MONOLITH. I have spores. You don't have spores. Stfu.

Reality check: It takes like 200 essence to restore the Supernal (sands don't effect this), 10p for every Celestine to re-establish the pact, and then 1000 essence to make up for what was lost. That is not two or three trips to Water.

Okay, I heal terrible? And? I would get roasted and toasted, and I'd taste absolutely wonderfull? And? I could -still- bring a hit in, and even that counts, and then I'd conglutinate and come again.

Thanks for establishing the entire point of my argument. There is NO LOSS for the losing party if they have conglutinate. Who cares about 1% experience when you can cause some serious damage to your rival? This is absolutely retarded... and I say this from the perspective of someone who used to kill Demon Lords solo. I never risked a damn thing. That's not fair.

Reality check: It takes like 200 essence to restore the Supernal (sands don't effect this), 10p for every Celestine to re-establish the pact, and then 1000 power to make up for what was lost. That is not two or three trips to Water.

There's also no lose if the defending party has Conglutnate, they can just keep on coming back with minimal exp loss.

There's still the fact that the raiders can cause serious damage to the defenders though if not xp-wise.

There's also no lose if the defending party has Conglutnate, they can just keep on coming back with minimal exp loss.

Thanks for establishing the entire point of my argument. There is NO LOSS for the raiding party if they have conglutinate. Who cares about 1% experience when you can cause some serious damage to your rival? This is absolutely retarded... and I say this from the perspective of someone who used to kill Demon Lords solo. I never risked a damn thing. That's not fair. If the success of killing a Demon Lord is going to have a high impact, failure to kill one should too.

I think you missed the point. There should be a disadvantage for the raiding party. There should be an advantage for the defending party. The only way this balance will be achieved is if the people raiding have something to lose. Furthermore, it only makes sense that given in all other home turf, the defending party conglutinates, that defending Celestinans/Magnagorans should conglutinate on their respective cosmic plane.

My pleasure. Because....well....you know....hate to break it but....the Supernals and Demon Lords shouldn't be killable if they are supposed to never get touched. They might as well have divine fire around them. 

PK mostly away from Prime thanks to avenger
PK away from Nil/Celestia because of that skill
Coming soon? Pk away from Earth/Water and Astral

Welcome to Lusternia, the Age of pacifism.

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If raiders should have a disadvantage, make a damn demesne up there. Serenwilde does it, Magnagora does it, even Glomdoring would do it if there would still be Blacktalon in existance....so why, my friend, can't Celest do it?

No, the Demon Lords and Supernals should NOT be killable by people who can continuously walk in a room, hit them, instantly die, conglutinate, and come back. It should require team work and skill that involves survival against them not being never ending fodder. The only reason you support this idea is because it allows you and other people a chance to be "part of the action" even if that means just endlessly sacrificing yourself. I'm sorry but you should have no impact if that's the method you are using.

Then Hajamin should be able to instantly zap all of you. He's a freaking God in this RPG.