Corr2005-09-27 18:59:14
QUOTE(Ye of Little Faith @ Sep 27 2005, 06:52 PM)
Very few people regret tattoos or piercings from my experience. Take your conservative propaganda and suggestive, incomplete/non-existant 'polls' (which any political science major can tell you amount to jack-diddly-squat, as can any stat student. They're so easily spun and twisted) elsewhere.
193861
I'm going to assume you enjoy missunderstanding people.
My conservative propaganda?
The only point I was trying to make was that saying "my friend, or me, or my parents" doesn't give any indication about what the trend is, because even IF it was 99% there are Thousands if not Millions of people who are in the 1% catagory.
And if it makes you feel better I'm a Democrat, I just also happen to know a thing or two about business.
Rarely does Business have anything to do with politics, unless your just a snob.
Richter2005-09-27 19:03:36
Oh, and people that play muds, and those that frequent this forum, tend to be pretty liberal. Which is fine, I went to a hippie college. 
I'm surprised no one has made a post in big letters that says "Damn the man!", and then not backed it up with anything.
I'm surprised no one has made a post in big letters that says "Damn the man!", and then not backed it up with anything.
Corr2005-09-27 19:04:21
http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/northwest/s...art_laser.shtml
Turns out they did do a study, 75% of English people regret tattoos.
Thats 15,110,364 people who do NOT regret tattoos, and 45,331,092 who DO regret it, assuming everyone in the country got a Tattoo.
Do you understand now?
Turns out they did do a study, 75% of English people regret tattoos.
Thats 15,110,364 people who do NOT regret tattoos, and 45,331,092 who DO regret it, assuming everyone in the country got a Tattoo.
Do you understand now?
Unknown2005-09-27 19:04:51
QUOTE(Singollo @ Sep 27 2005, 02:57 PM)
I'm going to agree with Kalo as well. If you want to attract me you better be a female with more than just a single piercing in each ear.
193865
Aren't you being as superficial as the people who denied you a job?
Ashteru2005-09-27 19:07:49
English people....what English people? Those that live in England? Those that work in business? Those over 50, over 40 whatever?
Statistics ARE easily manipulated. There isn't a saying for nothing 'I only trust statistics I faked myself'
EDIT: Oh yeah, how do you define 'regret'? Not wanting it at all, regretting the choice of the false image, that you tattooed in the name of one of your exes...etc.
Statistics ARE easily manipulated. There isn't a saying for nothing 'I only trust statistics I faked myself'
EDIT: Oh yeah, how do you define 'regret'? Not wanting it at all, regretting the choice of the false image, that you tattooed in the name of one of your exes...etc.
Singollo2005-09-27 19:12:00
No. There is such a thing as attracted, and it has nothing to do whether or not I find the person to be a genuine, good person. Now, I probably should say that not having piercings would not stop me from dating someone, but if you want to catch my eye...
Richter2005-09-27 19:21:56
How'd we go from "It sucks that people won't hire those with piercings/tattoos" to "Lots of people regret having tattoos?"
Singollo2005-09-27 19:25:48
Drop your moderator boot.
Richter2005-09-27 19:31:57
QUOTE(Singollo @ Sep 27 2005, 11:25 AM)
Drop your moderator boot.
193882
Sure! Why didn't I think about that! I'll just... stop moderating!
Or not.
We were having a perfectly good discussion on tattoos and piercings, and getting hired. I really don't care if people regret them, and I was under the impression that you only cared about the original topic. But if everyone can be swayed so easilly to talk about a completely different subject, then you must not have cared so much about the topic, and essentially, you're letting off steam and didn't want to engage in any kind of meaningful debate.
See, when someone posts something, they usually want to stay on the topic they were posting about, until they find some kind of resolution.
Darn me for keeping us talking about what you posted. I must suck.
Corr2005-09-27 20:04:02
Sorry for the derailment, I was trying to help explain why business looks at piercings and tattoos poorly.
Its viewed publicly as a youthfull indisgretion, not something to be taken seriously. Why? Because 75% of people tend to regret making such choices.
It really doesn't matter who these people are or what "regret" means. The public image (and thats what the business is concerned about here) is that 75% of people regret making such choices, and thus making that choice is not seen as something professional or long lasting. Your business is all about the image and the emotions people associate with the name.
Edit: And if you want to know all the details of the study, either read the article or contact the BBC.
Its viewed publicly as a youthfull indisgretion, not something to be taken seriously. Why? Because 75% of people tend to regret making such choices.
It really doesn't matter who these people are or what "regret" means. The public image (and thats what the business is concerned about here) is that 75% of people regret making such choices, and thus making that choice is not seen as something professional or long lasting. Your business is all about the image and the emotions people associate with the name.
Edit: And if you want to know all the details of the study, either read the article or contact the BBC.
Ashteru2005-09-27 20:10:04
I skimed the articel, and it nowhere said who was asked. If you just ask a certain group of persons, you can easily make the outcome of the poll as you want it.
Richter2005-09-27 20:20:48
QUOTE(Corr @ Sep 27 2005, 12:04 PM)
Sorry for the derailment, I was trying to help explain why business looks at piercings and tattoos poorly.
Its viewed publicly as a youthfull indisgretion, not something to be taken seriously. Why? Because 75% of people tend to regret making such choices.
It really doesn't matter who these people are or what "regret" means. The public image (and thats what the business is concerned about here) is that 75% of people regret making such choices, and thus making that choice is not seen as something professional or long lasting. Your business is all about the image and the emotions people associate with the name.
Edit: And if you want to know all the details of the study, either read the article or contact the BBC.
Its viewed publicly as a youthfull indisgretion, not something to be taken seriously. Why? Because 75% of people tend to regret making such choices.
It really doesn't matter who these people are or what "regret" means. The public image (and thats what the business is concerned about here) is that 75% of people regret making such choices, and thus making that choice is not seen as something professional or long lasting. Your business is all about the image and the emotions people associate with the name.
Edit: And if you want to know all the details of the study, either read the article or contact the BBC.
193898
So, you're saying that piercings and tattoos aren't generally accepted as professional because a portion of the professionals themselves regret doing the same thing? Isn't that like discriminating against your own kind? How do you take into account the people that have never had either, and frown upon them?
Corr2005-09-27 20:30:24
Not sure how you got that conclusion.
Piercings and Tattoos are seen by the majority of people to be something you do as a child with little thought about the future. I.E. A Bad investment.
Business don't want to be associated with bad investments.
This is the same reason you will rarely see a business logo with an image that gives the impression of a line going from the top left of the logo to the bottom right. It gives the impression of a downward graph, also not something you want in people's subconcious.
Piercings and Tattoos are seen by the majority of people to be something you do as a child with little thought about the future. I.E. A Bad investment.
Business don't want to be associated with bad investments.
This is the same reason you will rarely see a business logo with an image that gives the impression of a line going from the top left of the logo to the bottom right. It gives the impression of a downward graph, also not something you want in people's subconcious.
Corr2005-09-27 20:35:23
Here
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi...33.1999.02714.x
Make of it what you will.
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/links/doi...33.1999.02714.x
QUOTE
Reasons for requesting laser removal of unwanted tattoos
VARMA & LANIGAN
Laser removal of tattoos is not generally or readily available on the National Health Service and removal in privately run clinics is expensive. For those seeking removal of their tattoo this can create significant financial hardship. We investigated the psychological, social and financial impact of tattoos on the lives of those patients requesting laser removal. Sixty-eight patients with a mean age of 36 years participated. Twenty-seven (40%) had one tattoo, whereas eight (12%) possessed 10 or more; 54% had an amateur tattoo. Only 18% had received an explanation of the procedure or side-effects. The mean age at application of the first tattoo was 16 years; 48 (71%) were tattooed below the legal age limit of 18 years. Most tattoos were applied for the sake of fashion. The median duration of regret was 14 years before seeking removal. The main reasons for removal were enhancement of self-esteem and social, domestic and family reasons. In those patients attending for removal, most tattoos are applied impulsively and inexpensively in youth. They are often regretted for decades and create significant psychological, social and financial burdens.
VARMA & LANIGAN
Laser removal of tattoos is not generally or readily available on the National Health Service and removal in privately run clinics is expensive. For those seeking removal of their tattoo this can create significant financial hardship. We investigated the psychological, social and financial impact of tattoos on the lives of those patients requesting laser removal. Sixty-eight patients with a mean age of 36 years participated. Twenty-seven (40%) had one tattoo, whereas eight (12%) possessed 10 or more; 54% had an amateur tattoo. Only 18% had received an explanation of the procedure or side-effects. The mean age at application of the first tattoo was 16 years; 48 (71%) were tattooed below the legal age limit of 18 years. Most tattoos were applied for the sake of fashion. The median duration of regret was 14 years before seeking removal. The main reasons for removal were enhancement of self-esteem and social, domestic and family reasons. In those patients attending for removal, most tattoos are applied impulsively and inexpensively in youth. They are often regretted for decades and create significant psychological, social and financial burdens.
Make of it what you will.
Ashteru2005-09-27 20:48:19
They asked patients...of -course- they regret getting a tattoo, else they wouldn't want it removed... 
Manjanaia2005-09-27 20:48:55
If you're going to work for customers then you're gonna have to wear something as likely to offend as little people as possible. This will probably mean something bland. You're there to serve the customer, so you have to be acceptable to the average customer you're going to get. Myself, I'd prefer your look to the boring look but that's just the way things are.
Ashteru2005-09-27 20:52:12
QUOTE(Manjanaia @ Sep 27 2005, 08:48 PM)
If you're going to work for customers then you're gonna have to wear something as likely to offend as little people as possible. This will probably mean something bland. You're there to serve the customer, so you have to be acceptable to the average customer you're going to get. Myself, I'd prefer your look to the boring look but that's just the way things are.
193925
Well, if you take it that way, it really depends on the customers. I'd think working in a computer or software shop requires a total different outfit and mindset than, let's say, working in insurance or a bank.
Richter2005-09-27 20:52:58
QUOTE(Manjanaia @ Sep 27 2005, 12:48 PM)
If you're going to work for customers then you're gonna have to wear something as likely to offend as little people as possible. This will probably mean something bland. You're there to serve the customer, so you have to be acceptable to the average customer you're going to get. Myself, I'd prefer your look to the boring look but that's just the way things are.
193925
Exactly, something everyone can relate to. You're neutral, you're there for the customer, you're not there to make a statement.
Ashteru2005-09-27 20:55:58
QUOTE(Richter @ Sep 27 2005, 08:52 PM)
Exactly, something everyone can relate to. You're neutral, you're there for the customer, you're not there to make a statement.
193932
Would you rather buy from someone neutral or from someone who looks like if he belongs there?
Richter2005-09-27 20:58:33
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Sep 27 2005, 12:55 PM)
Would you rather buy from someone neutral or from someone who looks like if he belongs there?
193933
I'd like to buy from someone non-threatening and not wierd (by whomever's standards) - looking.
Let me ask you this: If I walk into Big 5 Sporting goods, and ask for some help, the guy in the button up shirt and slacks walks over, and helps me. Does he look like he belongs? Is he lifting weights, has a headband on, maybe is wearing bicycle shorts?
