Hey, I don't mind buying, I just freaking hate selling.

That's why you work customer service like me, where all I do is help people, and never have to sell anything.

Don't you work in a library or something anyway?

Yep. A library where I can wear anything without words/logos on it, and have as many piercings as I want.

-continues making plans to get his MLS-

Is it just the Christian Right who have preconceptions about piercings? Or is it your grandma? Your parents? Anyone who isn't under 30, trying to look like a rebel and a self-appointed 'non-conformist'?

There's a good reason for commonly accepted dress codes - you're telling others what you are. The way you present yourself is the way people who don't know you view you as a person.

Wearing a Saville Row suit says "I mean business, and since I can afford a tailor, I'm worth your time and custom."

Wearing a metal stud through your eyebrow says "I paid to get a metal stud through my eyebrow to look individual."

Conclusion: Wearing an eyebrow piercing to an interview is like wearing a LEGALIZE WEED t-shirt to an interview. It's suicide. It's saying you put more importance in your individuality (I can only presume this is why you'd get a piercing, either that or you like being thought of as immature and rebellious) than you put in your job.

Newsflash: You don't need a metal bar in your skin to be unique. More importantly, it makes you look like a prick.

-Amaru

To answer this, yes, actually. I can work as a GS-4 Government Employ for the USDA NFS and still have an eyebrow piercing, and can have it increased indefinitely. I can also work in various professional scientific fields for more money than any buisness major will make with a suit and tie, frankly because one field is concerned with mental and physical capacity while another situates itself with perception and the greenback. This also completely discounts alternate career pursuits such as art, literature, etc. Really, anyone who doesn't want to work behind a desk fielding file stack after file stack, or person after person is less likely do have to deal with society's antiquated and conservative idea of appearance and status quo.

And did Amaru just call someone a prick?

As I was reading this post, I was noticing it was not quite like one of Ceres' normal posts.

Then, of course, I saw the signature at the bottom.

I banned Amaru's posting ability for a reason, Ceres is almost there. Please don't try to find ways to get around this, it's, shall we say, frowned upon?

It's why I approve of uniform dress codes in schools. In high school, we were required to come dressed in white and blue. Anything else causes an unnecessary distraction. Should everyone be forced to take heed of your 'individuality' and take time away from the matter at hand, such as studies or even in a business organization? It's threatening and annoying to some. Either way, it makes for bad business or less time learning and more time pondering the blue hair of the guy sitting in front of you in class. I probably don't make any sense, but...you can be as tolerant as you wish. There's a standard that I don't mind sticking to for the better.

I assume you've never seen me when I'm trying to explain something to Murphy.

You're right, I can't make much sense of that. I understand what you're saying about uniform dress codes and everything, but how is having a piercing or blue hair anymore destracting than that super attractive individual sitting across the room? Shall we also ban the pretty people as well as the tattooed or pierced from learning environments?

I think its great to be tolerant, and I'm probably one of the more liberal and tolerant people you will meet (in real life of course, f- the trackers). But at the same time I'm not as weak of mind or character to let someone different than myself, or the person next to them distract me from something important such as education or work, but then that's how I raised myself.

Don't make assertions like that without proof, it's a serious issue and can be extremely damaging.

Sin, being physically attractive and having a mohawk are two different things. You would seriously hire a lawyer that had a mohawk? Aren't first impressions key?

We're forced to conform at times and it's fine by me!

I would not make assertions like that without proof.

Yes. If we was a better lawyer than somebody else. Who cares if he has a mohawk? Just like I'd hire a hideously ugly lawyer over a supermodel with very little idea.

To second Lisaera's post, and to echo Richter's - I won't miss you when you're in the same boat as Amaru. Hah.

And, Richter does not discriminate. At least, not to the degree in which you're accusing him. He might hate a bit, but he also takes exactly what he gets - He can make all the snide remarks he likes about men open about their flamboyant and sexual nature all he likes. That's not near as discriminating as, say, my complete and utter hatred for rights, conservatives, and religion.

There's actually no method of forum banning that can stop anyone with a little ingenuity.

I didn't accuse Richter of any particular degree of discrimination.

You know, these arguments remind me a lot of what pagans and such get a lot, i.e. "You're doing this to be unique, and get attention." Some are, sure. Those people are also usually the ones who will drop it in a second if it gets hard or something better comes along.

I didn't get pierced to look unique, or get attention, or to be rebellious. I asked my parents, they were cool with it, I did it. I did it because I like it, not because other people DON'T like it.

And while I understand that this isn't going to change in the foreseeable future, and there's good reason for it and all, I must say that I find it utter crap that I have to deal with anyone who walks through the door, no matter how much of a stupid ass they are, but they shouldn't have to deal with me being who I am? That is incredibly stupid.

I was contemplating Ceres' characteristic reply, and I kind of realized there's little left to damage.

Uuuurg. There goes my hope of not getting depressed today.

You think non profits don't have their own preconceptions and standards that they apply to anyone who comes into contact with them? More likely you just happen to agree with those standards and preconceptions while other people would not agree with, nor be willing to work in such an environement.

Anyone who thinks one section of society is 'wrong' is themselves either a hyprocrit or ignorant.

I would agree, there are certain kinds of people that could walk into a co op and get funny looks.

No part of society is wrong, because it's all made up of opinions. And although opinions sometimes aren't what we want to hear, it's what makes us diverse.

Tying that back into the topic, tattoos and piercings make people diverse as well, and I certainly don't want everyone to be the same. The opposition one might get from those items come from... opinions.