Yes, yes using putrefaction against a mage would indeed be smart wouldn't it. Because all of their attacks are 100% physical.

My point being that you said you tanked Diamante under Inquisition and got torn to pieces by Geb's staff. If we take into consideration that unlike every else, you can reduce his damage by 45% plus other stuff, it is very skewed, no? And to be technical, the Aqua staff is now part physical

narsrim putrefaction is a def... so inquisition would strip it noh?

Hmm, that's a good point. I want to see a log of Daevos tanking Diamante under Inquisition versus Geb's staff. I honestly just don't see how its possible. Geb's staff doesn't come anywhere close to doing as much damage to me... and Diamante can kill me in like 3 hits under inquisition. Now given that I have a lot less health than Daevos, I'd think Geb and his almighty staff would just rip me in half quick like. It doesn't.

Except I don't. I have fought Guardians and Mages a plenty, and none of them have ever had trouble dealing with my swords, unless they were a ridiculously low level and could have died in one haymaker.

In fact just as a bit of corrobation - ask Munsia how much trouble she had against me before she killed me - and she is only a L63 furrikin (I believe the answer you will find is "Not much at all".

But, uh..

You don't have greatrunes.

This is why elemental runes have to be changed drastically, the gap between warriors with them and warriors without them is immensely wide. I do not understand why this has been ignored from the beginning of Lusternia.

If you downgrade knights to the point where people can handle elemental runes, all warriors without elementals will be utterly gimped and worthless.

An example, at the beginning of Achaea, knights had bladefire, which allowed them to change part of their damage to an element. This episode ended in Sarapis deleting bladefire and ignoring all envoy suggestions even remotely approaching the concept of elemental damage for knights henceforth.

I already posted a suggestion for the problem in the ideas section twice, but since people rather keep complaining about the damage than actually finding a solution, it isn't happening.

You: too much damage, NERF!
Me : I agree, but there needs to be a decent solution.
You: too much damage, NERF!
Me : maybe have runes convert much less damage and offer chances of a specific affliction or effect instead.
You: eww no! NERF!

etc.. and obviously most knights using those runes don't want their damage downgraded either, but since even the victims of said damage rather complain untill no knight can kill them at all anymore, this problem will never see a solution.

Exactly, Thorgal.

Know whats really wrong? 3600 damage haymakers. 3600! Thats nearly 120% of my max health at level 82 (I had staff twirled, so it left me with ~150 health). Yes, the person who did it had some of the best weapons in the game, but still. 3600!

Edit: And that was fully deffed, including reasonably decent greatrobes, and a shield.

Theres another problem to that though as damage warriors being a viable path is something that I think we want to retain rather than abolish. In most IREs being a damage warrior is a hopeless case and it being a strong path here is something that adds flavor to Lusternia. Not saying it is not too much or that it is just that when trying to change it you have to keep that in mind.

Also any change regarding artifacts shouldnt be taken lightly as you have to keep in mind these people most likely paid real money for these things.

i am getting sick of all these posts about warriors being overpowered, i dont have any artifacts at all i am just an ordianry warrior, i can kill some people i die to many more, any good mage can kill me with just a few staffs, kaervas doesnt even need to use his demense to kill me last time i was down in 3 hits, and good guardian can kill me with two amissios and an absolve even with me eating and sipping with regenerations up, its slightly harder for nihilists in this respect but they can still kill me the same way if there smart, knights like me are NOT overpowered i think that none of these archtypes are singularly overpowered but there are alot of skills and like thorgal said the arties that need looking into to have some changes made. It seems to me that people here are just asking for others to be nerfed because they themselves cant beat them in a 1 vs 1 fight. Please get over it, stop complaining and start helping

And a lvl2 electric penalty.. if you'd be a trill like me, those elemental warriors would barely tickle.

The knight artifacts definitely need looking at if thats all that are causing them to be so unstoppable. Yes, they paid money for that, but as has been said above, none of the other architypes can really get that unstoppable except in extreme cases. It just seems so wrong that the best damage taking class and the best damage doing class are the same class, not to mention they sure don't have a problem giving afflictions either.

And Silimaur, take your own advice and stop complaining, and start helping

That helps a little, but yeah, with electricity resistance, I'm sure that 3600 damage would be an easily ignorable 3000 damage. And whats 3000 damage with a very generous 3050 max health?

And as to aquamancer staff, Vesar's staff still did 1400 damage to me, that's 500 more than any geomancer staff, and I got level 3 cold resistance, trans resilience and a 110 blunt fullplate.

Another point: sweep, assault, crush and lunge should not go straight through shields and prismatic barriers.

You're right Narsrim Geb doesn't do 1800 damage, he does 2100 per staff to me, and this is not in water, mind you.

His damage overcomes my sipping and sparkle eatting in short order whereas I can tank Diamante until the cows come home.

Putre against a geo is prolly a decent idea, depending on the geo.
Putre against an aqua is quite stupid.

If they are the best damage class, tell me why some mages can do more damage than ANY knight in realms?



Aint that the truth.. do you know that you reduce my damage by about 30% as compared to others!

Geb would own you with or without staff.

Heck, you run from binah/phantoms.

If im falling asleep on my keyboard and fighting a tide lord at the same time then damn right I do. Otherwise, you're retardedly wrong as usual