Level 3 speed bonuses

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Jack2005-10-01 22:43:09
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 1 2005, 10:24 PM)
'Cause one or two strength is gonna be so helpful for a faeling.
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Two con and two strength would be.

QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 1 2005, 10:24 PM)
Our speed isn't all that insane right now, if we take advantage of that speed with fast weapons we do next to no damage

Yes, it is insane. It's meant to be insane. That's the whole damned point of it. And faelings, as you have stated yourself, are not meant to be doing damage: they are MEANT to be doing wounding and bleeding damage, which they obviously are, considering the success of fighters such as Murphy, Lyco, even yourself.

QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 1 2005, 10:24 PM)
And it's nowhere near as deadly as Mugwump-speed nightkiss/moonburst/etc.

I never stated it was. In fact, I stated the opposite, that a downgrade of faeling balance would warrant an upgrade in statistics, whereas a downgrade of mugwump equilibrium would mean nothing whatsoever, implying that faeling are more or less fine and mugwump are overpowered.

You seem to be under the impression that I want faelings downgraded. I was merely responding to the issue of balance/equilibrium as a whole: personally I believe shadowlord faelings are the weakest warrior specialization in most areas and should be given a little more strength/constitution regardless of other tweaks.
Murphy2005-10-01 23:30:05
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 2 2005, 08:10 AM)
Lyco does only 250 a swing with his rapiers (pssst murphy get him better ones or tell him to switch swords)
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firstly, Lyco doesn't have those rapier for damage, believe me. And he's currently in Dreadlord training.
Terenas2005-10-02 01:44:45
QUOTE(Murphy @ Oct 1 2005, 11:30 PM)
firstly, Lyco doesn't have those rapier for damage, believe me.
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Who would have thought? doh.gif
Jack2005-10-02 02:28:27
What, they aren't damage rapiers?

... Jesus H Christ, how does that boy expect to win duels?

Next you'll be saying he's got high damage broadswords. I mean JESUS H CHRIST.
Unknown2005-10-02 02:47:44
So we've got 9 people saying things are fine, and 27 saying that at least one race with the level 3 speed needs to be rebalanced. (No guesses for which one.)

That seems pretty conclusive.
Ethelon2005-10-02 10:53:42
I agree that level 3 is to fast for Mugwumps, but the problem is, before they added level three, I tried Mugwump and because of their disadvatages, they were not strong enough as a race to use. If they knock us back to lvl 2 eq I hope they take away some disadvatages or increase our con a little. Otherwise you will see most of the current mugwumps go to a different race.
silimaur2005-10-03 10:29:06
i think faeling speed is maybe a bit fast but if it was changed they defiantely wouldnt need any extr con, lyco already has more health then me and im igasho sad.gif
Unknown2005-10-03 12:11:34
I only have more health than you when surged. If you had surge you would have more health than me besides I think a few levels higher anyway.We should spar more often Im going to stop being lazy and actually use the night skillset so we'll see who wins next time.

But on topic I think faeling speed is fine since due to the fact that we arent that tanky.
Shiri2005-10-03 12:14:07
QUOTE(Zetsu @ Oct 3 2005, 01:11 PM)
I only have more health than you when surged. If you had surge you would have more health than me besides I think a few levels higher anyway.We should spar more often Im going to stop being lazy and actually use the night skillset so we'll see who wins next time.

But on topic I think faeling speed is fine since due to the fact that we arent that tanky.
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It's not about tankiness (you ARE that tanky, tankier than me/elfen/most other non-warrior races due to the sip bonus, and that's WITHOUT shadowlord), it's about the kind of offence you can put out.
Unknown2005-10-03 12:17:11
which really isnt all that damaging. When you think about it, all you have to do is change parry or stance to the two areas im trying to hit and then my offense is squashed. Not all the blademaster afflictions are good so speed knights try to work just a few areas. Parry and stance correctly and I wont be able to get anywhere. Even with my 220 plus percision and speed rapiers.
silimaur2005-10-03 12:26:18
lycos offence is briliant if you ask me, as long a i manage to survive the beginning though i begin to wear him down
Xenthos2005-10-03 17:05:10
QUOTE(Shiri @ Oct 3 2005, 08:14 AM)
It's not about tankiness (you ARE that tanky, tankier than me/elfen/most other non-warrior races due to the sip bonus, and that's WITHOUT shadowlord), it's about the kind of offence you can put out.
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Uh... hm. Without surge, we really aren't. During the last wargames, I had to run away from Marsu to try and buy time to regain the power to surge- didn't really have any other way to slow him down, and he tears through my 3500 health pretty darn quickly. For some reason, I think your drawdown counteracts the lesser health/sip... you don't NEED quite as much, especially with your fae doing some hindering.

It's pretty hard to put out a decent offence when four hits get you to vitality, even sipping.

Though I will note that Lyco does have nightkiss, which gives him (not quite) the same advantage you enjoy with drawdown.
silimaur2005-10-04 07:06:55
yeah but when your surged you have more health then any of the hard hitters like me, you do almost the same damage when you add in things like bleeding plus you do double the amount of afflictions...if you ask me you get it much easier