ya give me free scry and I'll be happy about the change (yes scry makes a BIG difference since its world wide)

Now, I think it's a bit too much too, but...flow costs a crappy NOVICE skillset. Do you really want to tell me that the loss of flow renders Moon, Ecology, Stag, Wicca, all that useless?

You could buy window enchants from me.

Notice how he doesnt mention druidry (Stag sucks abit still. Warriors cant use medicinebag and stagform is gay)

That was even on purpose.
Though I think that BT demesnes are a bit better than Hartstone ones, just a random side comment.

scarab > darkseed (why blacktalon doesnt use this more often I dont know.. IDIOTS!)
extra demesne effect > pathtwist

medicinebag is nice for bashing, but not during combat, as it requires armbalance and at times, I have to sip before that. It needs it's own balance but heal for much less. Off topic, I knoooow.

Flow sucks.

I'm starting to notice a gradual trend against magical travel in general. Demesne center? Costs power. Totem return? Power. Teleport? Power. Tesseract? Power. Summons of all forms? Power. Flow? Nerf. Catacombs? Downgrade. Via? Crappy from day one.

Center doesn't cost power if you're already in the demesne.

I don't know about you, but if I have a demesne bigger than say, four rooms, Munsia finds it and wipes it out before I'd ever care enough to center anyways.

My Seren Alt has never used flow. What I see it being used for however is people flowing from Abeytu to the tree because they don't want to walk. Or from the actual commune to the tree.

If it's such a horrible skill that costs so much just deal and/or get teleport like the rest of us. Or use the 27 rifts on ethereal.

Flow costs a crappy skillset. No amount of power can fix that. I think we've been over that before.

Maybe Gregori's suggestion can be undertaken and the original flow should be a Druid skill. That way, it's not imbalnced and too cheap.

Call it smoothflow.

Smoothflow is almost as bad a name as astroglide.

Superflow?
Hyperflow?
Druidflow?
Gowiththeflow?
Flowbee?
Powerflow?
Flownase?
Flowwithyourtow?
Flowmedown?
Flowjob?
Flowflowflowyourboat?

Okay, enough silliness!

Why is it no more cheap for druids (the people who can create forests) than Wiccans?

By cheap I meant a real powerful teleport at a very low skill level that has no delay and no power cost, etc.

Crappy cause you say its crappy. I say Elementalism is crappy, I hardly use it. It's all relative.

Magelock is one of the most absurd abilities out there.

...wow. Flow is local area only, and works in either?

I really sympathise with the tarot users, their changes are nearly as bad.

There must be some serious upgrades to forest skills coming out.
Or druid demesnes are going to be massively beefed up until you'd have to be insane to stand inside for longer than a second. Cause, you know, being wispable/flowable in our own FREAKING demesnes is fun.