Gregori2005-10-08 14:42:24
No what I need is about 36 hours sleep, which I will get after I finish moving this weekend, and have no internet for a week or two.
I still think you are being hastey and rash in some of your comments though.
I still think you are being hastey and rash in some of your comments though.
Laysus2005-10-08 14:45:14
QUOTE(Malicia @ Oct 8 2005, 02:06 PM)
Malicia - Married to Amaru
Narsrim - Hajamite
Munsia - Hajamarmite
Letho - not that influential
Folken - may be big in the SG, but not so much in the SW
Triden - big and skeery, mebbe, but not particularly a political power
Verithrax - Ex-celestian
Nejii - Our 'Regent' - definition of Celenwilder
Elysiana - not that influential
Kante - not that influential
Dakine - not that influential
Leef - not that influential, and Amaru's daughter
Thaddeus - don't know much about him. Ex-celestian?
Steffan - ex-celestian
Jelani - dormant
Raan - inactive
Dumihru - ex-inactive, pro-celest, ex-celestian
Vhri - enigmatic, nothing i can say on that matter
Aeto - too snuggly for his own good >.>
LISAERA - This one's already been covered. She's not pro-Celest, she's pro-Seren and made clear she's in it to further our own cause, not theirs.
Narsrim - Hajamite
Munsia - Hajamarmite
Letho - not that influential
Folken - may be big in the SG, but not so much in the SW
Triden - big and skeery, mebbe, but not particularly a political power
Verithrax - Ex-celestian
Nejii - Our 'Regent' - definition of Celenwilder
Elysiana - not that influential
Kante - not that influential
Dakine - not that influential
Leef - not that influential, and Amaru's daughter
Thaddeus - don't know much about him. Ex-celestian?
Steffan - ex-celestian
Jelani - dormant
Raan - inactive
Dumihru - ex-inactive, pro-celest, ex-celestian
Vhri - enigmatic, nothing i can say on that matter
Aeto - too snuggly for his own good >.>
LISAERA - This one's already been covered. She's not pro-Celest, she's pro-Seren and made clear she's in it to further our own cause, not theirs.
201473
Just thought I'd go through that
Edit: Corrected a few >.>
Unknown2005-10-08 14:45:28
Instead of helping Celest get Southguard, serenwilde decides to capture it and I'm guessing pissed off some Celestians. I will just say this, because it's a given fact. If Serenwilde doesn't come to terms with Celest, they will be wide open for Glom and Magnagora.
Malicia2005-10-08 14:45:53
QUOTE(Gregori)
I still think you are being hastey and rash in some of your comments though.Â
Meh. *kick*
Gregori2005-10-08 14:47:10
Dumihru has been active for quite some time, Laysus.
Unknown2005-10-08 14:48:01
A characters political influence has little to do with this discussion I think.
Gregori2005-10-08 14:49:05
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Oct 8 2005, 08:45 AM)
Instead of helping Celest get Southguard, serenwilde decides to capture it and I'm guessing pissed off some Celestians. I will just say this, because it's a given fact. If Serenwilde doesn't come to terms with Celest, they will be wide open for Glom and Magnagora.
201504
Not sure how you figure this, but I suggest you go find a new crystal ball.
Laysus2005-10-08 14:50:29
QUOTE(Cron @ Oct 8 2005, 02:48 PM)
A characters political influence has little to do with this discussion I think.
201508
Well, she said there were many prominent Serens in the ESA, so I put the not very influential as a way of saying "They may be able to fight but they're not particularly prominent" .
Edit - my way of seeing serens would be GAs, GCs, GMs, and then people who get heavily involved (ministers, ex people in charge, CR6 people, etc.)
Malicia2005-10-08 14:50:54
QUOTE(Gregori)
Dumihru has been active for quite some time, Laysus
stfu Laysus.
QUOTE(Cron)
A characters political influence has little to do with this discussion I think.
stfu Laysus
Unknown2005-10-08 14:51:56
QUOTE
Well, she said there were many prominent Serens in the ESA, so I put the not very influential as a way of saying "They may be able to fight but they're not particularly prominent"
Ah, okay.
Laysus2005-10-08 14:52:13
*point edits*
stfu Mali
stfu Mali
Malicia2005-10-08 14:54:02
No!
Class 101. English Lit.
Prominent
1. Projecting outward or upward from a line or surface; protuberant.
2. Immediately noticeable; conspicuous. See Synonyms at noticeable.
3. Widely known; eminent.
Everyone from that list is fairly well known and important to the SW. Getting uppity there, Laysus?
Class 101. English Lit.
Prominent
1. Projecting outward or upward from a line or surface; protuberant.
2. Immediately noticeable; conspicuous. See Synonyms at noticeable.
3. Widely known; eminent.
Everyone from that list is fairly well known and important to the SW. Getting uppity there, Laysus?
Laysus2005-10-08 14:54:25
And actually, I would say political weight does deal in part with prominence, because you could have Yuniko in there and say "OMG a prominent Seren in the ESA!" whereas actually you'd have a well known person who is a Seren, but doesn't really work as a prominent Seren. Like saying Shiro is a prominent Mag.
A prominent Seren would actually have some weight in the Wilde
A prominent Seren would actually have some weight in the Wilde
Unknown2005-10-08 14:56:20
One more post...
The ESA does not decide which villages Serenwilde will or will not influence. The ESA is not a formal military and political alliance between Serenwilde and Celest.
All Seren ESA members present were influencing on behalf of Serenwilde.
Good day.
The ESA does not decide which villages Serenwilde will or will not influence. The ESA is not a formal military and political alliance between Serenwilde and Celest.
All Seren ESA members present were influencing on behalf of Serenwilde.
Good day.
Malicia2005-10-08 15:03:59
Was that directed towards me? Shamarah was the first one to mention the ESA here and I went on to explain to Gregori that not all of the Serenwilde cringed at the thought of such an organization and provided a list for him. KTHX.
I'll say it one more time for the people in the back row.
I
did
not
state
that
the
ESA
members
were
or
were not
to
influence
in
Southgard.
I'll say it one more time for the people in the back row.
I
did
not
state
that
the
ESA
members
were
or
were not
to
influence
in
Southgard.
Unknown2005-10-08 15:05:22
No, it's directed at everyone bringing the damn ESA into this. The ESA has nothing to do with it at all.
Unknown2005-10-08 15:10:21
Ok guys and girls, step back, take a breather. Please. I adore nearly all of you and the bickering is a little silly.
Unknown2005-10-08 15:15:12
Not silly enough. I should've stuck to short quips and snide remarks as usual. This is why I avoid these debates on the forums. I hold no anger towards anyone here. I understand Celest's frustration. I am not quite sure what Malicia's true problem is other than the killing of dwarves, which she can address ingame.
Malicia2005-10-08 15:28:25
I'll just be straight with it. I feel bad. It doesn't feel good to screw other people over, in or out of game. That's my main issue here. Nothing can really change my mind on that. If our roleplay or the histories state that we should be cutthroat savages, fine. It's not how Malicia is. I hate Glomdoring. Magnagora. I don't hate Celest and won't be forced to conform to some pre-written ideologies.
Icly, I won't waste my time trying to convince people that they're acting like greedy bastards. The killing of the dwarves thing was BEYOND disgusting, but I doubt that anything would be done about it. What's done is done.
Icly, I won't waste my time trying to convince people that they're acting like greedy bastards. The killing of the dwarves thing was BEYOND disgusting, but I doubt that anything would be done about it. What's done is done.
Unknown2005-10-08 15:30:59
How did we screw anyone over? We had the stronger force. If Celest had the stronger force I imagine we would have helped them.