Cities would be fine if they had an Alembic. Or even if Deepnight had an Alembic.

I never bother with enchantments, now.  I can fly over water, I can swim, I have trout totem, I have a tome, sparkleberry, sip bonus, and a medicine bag.  I don't need none of your regens, I can just raise a forest.   I might need a cleanse, but it's rare anyone saps me.

I vote all the oxygen leaves the air, and you need an enchantment def in order to breathe it without taking damage

I was in comand during influencing and it was 3 of us able to influence in first few minutes. Me, Shinza and Kaileigh. And me alone influenced around 7-10 dwarfs in mines in first minutes.

Ok, you had 3 influencers, at this time we already had around 15+  The first time around is useally very important, it's not about who kills who, that is a side effect of sorts, is who and keep whom from influencing the denizens, so if Nars kills Daevos, he conguls and has to walk back, meh, like 1 minute of influencing lost, not much.  If 15 serenwilders grab 2 dwarves each, that's almost the whole village right there.

Then after i heard how many influencers Seren have i ordered to stop influencing and start killing Mags and Gloms. And we did it. And when we get 8 people to influence, Mags and Gloms were constantly killed. I ordered to start influenicng again and we were doing pretty well and  i asked again to allow us to take it and gor same answer, we have 18 peoples here.

At this time we had been influencing for an hour, 15+ influencing for an hour.. and you had 3-8 influencing -some- of that time

So after trying to convince you all to stop influence for a bit and give us a chance you sad NO.
So i ordered to pull back. Peoples were alredy pissed on Kelodan for killing dwarfs and Kaileigh.

And you gona tell me that Glomdoring would get it before us if you would just help in killing them?

What they are trying to tell you is if we had stoped influencing, all of our influencers would have left, which would have left, as Narsrim said, 4-5 "regular figters" there.  So yes, even if those few would have killed every mag/glom they would have come back with GRACE up, debated some of you guys out, and been ahead of you anyway. So yes, you would have lost had we pulled out when you told us to, not all of those 20 people would have stayed, because most of them were like me and Ibby, or Laneth, people there just to influence for Serenwilde, not to fight at all.  80% of serenwilders go bye-bye=celest lose village, understand?

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Mainly it's like this, Serenwilde was there before celest, serenwilde had more people then celest, serenwilde had a HUGE lead on everything, celest asked us to stop(which would have handed it to the taint)

That's the whole point. A good number of the people there would not have been there if it was being given to Celest. Believe it or not, not everyone in the Serenwilde likes Celest. I myself logged on to check messages (I was packing for my moving this weekend and took a break), saw the village up and heard we were influencing so I stayed to help. If I had heard Celest was influencing I would have logged off to do the crap I needed to get done.

Except most of the people there were influencers -not- combatants. Of all the Seren there showing in my log of last night on scent. I can see 4 that would definately stay, 7 that would leave immediately and the other 3 are  anybodies guess.

So you would have 4 combatants you could count on. Magnagora's forces though small could have easily handled that, as the only reason the wisp trap was effective was do to druids keeping the place forested. Remove the druids except 1 and the geomancers or Blacktalon could have easily wiped out the demesne.