In other words, a fundamental part of your RP is that you don't like to screw anyone over.
OOC, I don't like to scew anyone over. But I wouldn't say taking away someone's village IN A GAME is screwing anyone over, so we can rule out OOC concepts, right?

Kalodan's RP seems simple to me, too.
As is Thaemorn's.

Kalodan's is simple based on a child-like, single-minded mentality, where logical reasoning can be as easy as BECAUSE.
Thaemorn's is simple because he WILL put the gain of the Wilde over anything else.

I KNOW killing the dwarves doesn't do anything positive for us gaming-wise, but Thaemorn doesn't mind. Why? He's fine with it because the dwarves heading towards the wrong decision are disposed of. They should've been smarter about it. Thaemorn won't slaughter denizens for the hell of it, but he's going happy to take a harsh road if he sees it as benefiting Serenwilde's cause.

Just because a character's RP is simple, fanatical or power-hungry DOES NOT MEAN that it's straying from Seren RP in favour of powergaming.

Magnagora wouldn't get slated for being 'power-hungry' for attempting to extend it's influence over every single village. Just because 'we're not city folk' does not mean that being power hungry becomes a moral offence out of the game.

I don't have a problem with Malicia's RP at all, and havig diverse concepts of roles are great. Again, I just DON'T see why this makes us horrible OOC.

Yeah, it's just that lots of people seem to take the fact that Nejii concedes that he is pro-Celest (I'd not have said rabidly, because really his outlook is that they're like rather confused children, not listening to the wisdom of the spirits, and that while they do have their hearts in the right places (cleansing the Taint and the remnants of the Soulless from the world, purifying the Seas, etc.) they go about it in the wrong way sometimes, and their methods are a little out of it) as an admission that Serenwilde is fanatically Celest-snuggling and we've been ganging up on poor Magnagora since day 1 and so on and so forth because of Nejii and his kind of outlook. So I kind of bristle at the "rabid" part because it conveys all kinds of those assumptions, and take advantage of Nejii's position as a way of skipping actual justification for that.

I've argued (not in an aggro way, just debated) our position on "Celest" and our position on "cities" with Ibaesha, Sylphas and now Elryn and Tsuki IC and I've been disagreeing the whole time, but if they agree with each other against what I think I've conceded before now and I will again. (I don't think it could be said that I let them trample over me, because I stick to my views, but I think that I govern for Serenwilde how Serenwilde wants, not how I want, even if I and a lot of the others disagree on various counts.)

Sooo.

Nokraenom: In your quest to sound clever without having a clue, which you're quite good at, you have no idea how Malicia is. I have never spoken one word to you in game, unless you consider my trying to stab you a method of communication, which in that case, we should talk more often.

If they're helping us, why the hell would we ask them not to? Yes, it'd be polite and nice and all, but why should Serenwilde be nice? If they want to help, fine with me. Us letting them help us doesn't mean they should neccessarily expect that in return, though, and I think they're fools to think that.

OOC, yes, sucks to be them, and I hope they start doing better. IC, I'd wouldn't mind seeing Celest burn.

Well, not all of us think that way, which I hope to convey to my Celestian allies! What's left of them, heh.

Too bad this is entirely unrelated to what I said to the slightest degree. I must say, I'm fairly impressed by your ability to combine an ad hominem and a red herring arguments into such a short reply.

My comment stands, Nok.

Speaking of talking without a clue as to the conversation at hand.. :hum:

I'll just look to you for your advice and incredible wisdom, mm?

Oh wow Malicia, don't pull a Diamante! I'll never forgive you! Just let the rain drops fall where they may, its not like Celest wasn't already a Serenwilde protectorate and actually needed a village. I mean, screw them, if they want to be babies about losing to a far superior force, while not earning that village with their recent past actions then so be it.

Its not like Serenwilde won't still offer up help to Celest as long as Celest doesn't act like asshats towards it for taking something to help itself out. And with Nejii not here, much of the bogus alliance which the silent majority really didn't like isn't going to propogate, thus Celest isn't going to get as much help. Also, because Nejii isn't here can we cuss now? the police!

EDIT: No. ~Shiri~

rofl! Are you drunk?

No! Well. maybe.

Asshat. I like that word. Its a disturbing image, but a pretty neat word.

Nejii -is- here.

Well damn.

We could always lock him in a closet.

God damn, if I knew ya guys were all as self-centred, egotistical and powerhungry, I woulda joined you guys in open beta instead of Magnagora. WHY DIDNT YOU ALL SHOW THIS SIDE OF YOU BEFORE DAMNIT!

I think what makes this entire ordeal so funny is that people in Serenwilde and Celest act as if Serenwilde acted out of the agreement we had in place.

First, most of those people were never even involved in it. I specifically remember it being brought up that if one party could *not* provide the numbers to influence a village then the other was free to take it.

And guess what! Celest has done this before. There were times when Serenwilde simply had 1-4 people around who could influence. Now, this doesn't mean that Celest necessarily won those villages, but the influencing that was going on was by Celest because they had more people, and thus they had more of a chance.

That's exactly what happened here - end of story.