You do realize that it takes a geomancer what... ~120 lessons to get up to Astral? It takes a druid 50% mythical in Planar. Furthermore, that just gives them access to use the Pool or Megalith. Given many Glomdoring members are enemied to Celest, and Celest doesn't like us wandering through their terrain, they'd have to walk from Capricorn -> Taurus -> Leo/Libra -> Scorpio... and then after foresting it, what? Stay there and defend it for the next 6 hours when a novice Aquamancer can pop up to Cancer, which borders Scorpio?

Guess what? We even did that. If we can, you can too.

Wow, what did Estarra say???

The entire event was pre-destined, Xenthos. Magnagora was killing people when they arrived and already had a demesne up. On equal circumstances, my point, however, was that it would be far easier for a geomancer than a druid to even get the heck up there.

Furthermore, Glomdoring did it - with the help of Magnagora. That's not exactly the same. If Glomdoring were to ever fight toe-to-toe against any other party, it'd crumble. Don't act as if relying on Magnagora offensively and Viravain defensively implies achievement - ever.

We did not assist Glomdoring at all. Mainly, because it is my firm opinion that organizations should stand on their own during the Wild Nodes competition. It's a shame though, that Celest and Serenwilde doesn't share that opinion.

Glomdoring acquired and defended their node by themselves, and they should be proud of that fact. But never forget to continue developing their tactical skills.

Edit: Your point about the druid vs mage ability to get to the planes though is invalid, since Serenwilde had access to two cubixes throughout the competition.

Having Kaervas go in and help the Gloms defend Scorpio wasn't assisting?

Well, everyone had access to Astroglide...

We were up there before Magnagorans started killing anyone. We had no help besides our own power getting there and setting up to defend our own sphere. You weren't even THERE, so I don't know how you think you're justified in making stuff up, but I suppose you believe it's perfectly fine.

Or Ixion and Xenthos attacking and defending together?

That would be true if Magnagora were the only ones informed about the game and had a demesne ready and waiting for anyone who came up. Everyone knew about the game beforehand, not just us. It was just a matter of lack of fighters and druids, for you all. We were low on demesne people ourselves, and I had no idea whether or not we were going to win until I saw who was going to be participating.



They did neither, actually. You weren't even there, were you?

Maybe I should be more specific then, we didn't officially assist Glomdoring. We even outright denied a request to share nodes with them. Also to my knowledge, none of us fought with Glomdoring as well. Just attacking Celest or Serenwilde anywhere on Astral is not assistance, since we did not directly aid Glomdoring in the acquirement and defense of their nodes. Such as Serenwilde attempted to do for Celest.

Uh, it was more like Ixion was standing where I was trying to tackle you guys into. I don't think I actually swung at anyone with him, did I? Oh, and I moved him away from your barrage of pointstaffing.

Hey, I was there.

When we went up -with- Shamarah, we were being attacked by a Terror Coven with Kaervas boulder blasting into the room, along with Xenthos standing riiiiiight beside him. Glad you clarified that it wasn't 'official' Daevos. We weren't 'officially' helping Celest, either. You guys rushed over to their sphere when we went over. Terenas can confirm. I'll go back through the log and count how many Mags moved to Glomdoring's sphere to defend, when we moved over.

I'm surprised Viravain wasn't out there, uprooting nodes for Glomdoring, Xenthos. In that, good job. You still didn't do it alone.

That was also the room you would have to come through to break, wasn't right next to you, and allowed me to squint. Please don't say that me standing next to him means anything, because it really doesn't.

Edit: We got our node fairly, no cubix used period. Picked it up, carried it back, defended it. Serenwilde and Celest officially allied to take it back. We had a couple of unofficial Magnagorans helping to repress your raid. What's your point?

You didn't do it alone? That's my point!


I think, for the most part, Glomdoring was ignored. The geo-demense was the problem. I mean..who really worries about Glomdoring? It's the combined strength of both orgs that one might find a 'tad' troublesome. *grin*

Here's a thought:

At the beginning of the game, for the first five minutes, all the sphere links are open. This is because, at the beginning, the only open link on Cancer was Scorpio, which was Glomdoring's, and it's possible for none of them to be open... so if you don't have a cubix, it can be completely impossible to get nodes which often will stop you from winning.

But we did, for quite some time, except for a few Magnagorans who wandered by. That's a lot less of an effect than an official alliance. And we weren't being ignored, there were quite a few largescale intrusions onto our sphere. Shamarah spent a lot of time visiting us.

Shamarah's suicidal!

Indirect assistance is still assistance.

And I only got wisped /twice/. You guys really need some decent Shadowdancers.

But even more importantly, you need some decent Blacktalon...

Actually it was a diversion, that worked perfectly.

I stole your node singlehandedly in demesne without anyone having a clue, I simply hit my cubix alias instead of the wildnode nodes one, so I lost it.