How is it silly?

Ixion, the overrated. Shut up. This thread isn't about your damage so much as it's about instakills and lunge going through shield. My point was that the dreamweaver instakill is nothing to complain about, especially as warriors have easier moves to pull off. Daevos is a warrior. He has assault. There was a thread on assault, but I won't bring that all up.

Not end of story, because you stated nothing stops it. Also, I think you need a lesson in proportions. You remember that pie chart in math class when you were a child? You know the one the teacher used to help you understand how much of the pie you were gaining in relation to the whole? Well let's look at what we have going here. I do about 1900 damage in a deluged demesne, river, and sea environments to Alger when he is surged with 6.6k health (BTW, outside of those environments I do about 1600). You on the other hand accomplish about 1700 damage to many mages that have an average health of say 3k (being generous with this number for your benefit).

1900/6600 * 100%= 29% of Alger's health in one staff (Rounded up). 1700/3000 *100%= 57% of an average mage's health in damage with two lunges (Your favorite attack combo). So yes, my raw damage score is greater than yours against a target with more than double the health of the target your raw damage score comes from. But, we deal in proportions when we fight. Your ability to tank something also depends on what proportion of your health is being damaged per attack (all other things remaining constant). That being the case, you do a good bit more proportional damage to mages than I against surged warriors. In order for my effective damage to be equal to yours, I would have to be doing over 3.7k damage per staff to a Surged Alger.

Thanks for the support there. This thread is about dreamweaving. Saying that another archetype has some overpowered ability in no way negates the one brought up about Dreamweaving.

Uh...
Argument: You shouldn't be able to do that. It's unreasonable.
Defence: There are ways to avoid it, you could have done better. Besides, you can dish out x amount of punishment to me and I can do nothing about it, so on what grounds is my ability unreasonable?

If you kick me in the nuts, then I walk up and kick one of your friends in the nuts, and he complains I shouldn't have been able to do that, it's perfectly logical for me to bring up the earlier kicking of mine nuts in argument.

Should anyone have been kicked in the nuts in the first place?
I don't know anymore... I just don't know.
This is deep, man.

Edit: Nevermind, I think I worked out what it was. No-one's actually tried that before.

ruh roh

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. Geb doesn't do anywhere CLOSE to the damage of you or Diamante. However, as always, I must remind:

Full Plate + Putrefaction (45% reduction) + various other defenses = you take crap damage from weapons.

To everyone else without putrefaction and full plate, this statement is no where close to being true.

Geb hits me for more than Ixion, though Diamante does hit me harder than Geb with both swings.

Diamante no longer has that kind of damage, he went speed as a Mugwump.

So?

Diamante has the potential to deal far more damage than Geb with his swords with a race that has high strengh.

I don't see how albeit I do have more asphyxia resistance than you with maiden blessing. Do you have a cold proof?

With barkskin, drawdown, great robes, cold proof, purification blessing (asphyxia and poison resistance), Geb doesn't deal as much damage to be as Ixion lunging.

This point is nul since Diamante has a cameo

geb if you're going to compare damage you have to compare your speed too.

and as a damage warrior diamante was way easie to deal with. Igasho - lvl2 slower balance tae'dae lvl3 slower balance. Everytime he hit me sure it went for huge but that doesnt mean much if the gaps inbetween those hits are huge as well.

Level 2 balance is like what... 1 second slower than normal balance? With huge damage, that might not concern a warrior with surge, but if he hit me 2.5 combos in a row, I was dead.

1 second slower is 5 second attack frame

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diamante hits me for 2k in a 5 second attack fram = 400dps
lets even go with Narsrim's figure which is 2.5k so thats 500dps

(If that was 1 second faster then thats 500dps on first figure, 625dps on second. 1 second is a lot)
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geb hits me for 1.9k on a 3 second attack frame(?)
1.9k/3 = 633.3dps (not including phantoms demesne and turtles)
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So who has bigger damage?

Then consider who has the passive hinder like ents, phantoms, darkseed, demesne etc. Who's dps gets reduced more?

Don't forget that Diamante's DPS can be further decreased by the passive use of parry and stances.

Is this topic about knights, or dreamweavers?

It's hijack, since my earlier argument about the limited form of attack against dreamweavers was never responded to.