Yeah, really cheap. Marsu paid 200k to get unenemied to Mother Moon.

200k in Lusternia is cheap. It's about 4 days worth of bashing. 6 if you are really lazy.

No, it's not.. not anywhere close cheap.. not anywhere close to bashing 4 days either.

Maybe if you're a titan or demigod spending 10 hours a day bashing.

Add me to the list of folks that don't like the most recent Flow changes. No, not at all.

On the average I can make 40 - 60 a day bashing. 40 X 6 = 240k. 60 x 4 = 240k.

I am neither Titan nor Demigod.

I can make 20k-30k each in the catacombs with nars in one trip

More like 20k than 30k, but still... it takes us like 20 minutes if we hardcore power bash.

It's funny whenever we are there to bash or get corpses Ixion is whining and says no you are raiding the catacombs to piss us off

When I was transing Alchemy off Market credits I was bashing 100k a day to buy as many credits at a time as I could and trans as quickly as possible. Making gold in Lusternia is hard until you reach about level 60. After that it is easy.

Um, no one can do the entire catacombs in 20 mins- if you get some lucky crits maybe you can do the bottom or top levels in that time. The middle alone would take you over double that if you know how to get everywhere, which I doubt you do.

Screw the middle, that's a waste of time We can get about 15k from the bottom quickly with two people and then 5k from top even faster for a good 20k in 20-30 minutes.

Ixion why do you doubt us? We have been all around the catacombs we have done the single village orcing quest. Dont knock on people just because you dont like them. People arent as stupid as you think. Yeesh people say we have egos yet you have one just as big

Could somebody tell us, poor uninformed souls that no longer play, wich is the current state of flow?

With so many changes lately I got lost

Flow is currentally Same Zone only

Flow can currentally be used in taint-taint or pure-pure, either Glomdoring or Serenwilder with Nature can do this.

What's the problem then? It's good for defending and raiding, but no longer will you be jumped inside your manse due to flood. It's like moonbeam but with the forest requirement.

I must be missing something...

Flow still works across manses, though I don't know what you are referring to by flood.

The fact it is like moonbeam without the forest requirement is one of the arguments.

It's still reasonable for defending, less than what it was, but it's there.

It's useless for raiding, and it's useless for utility travel.

The fact that commune conflict is now incredibly unhinged as far as flowing/wisping goes is also a problem.

And Serenwilde's problem is that it consists of two areas, northern and southern Serenwilde...no flowing from southern to northern...that's not funny.

I wouldn't say that is our only problem with it, but is certainly a big concern at the moment and one which most people can't whinge and complain about against us for.

The amounts for the catacombs are exaggerated, you dont hit 15k for the whole of the bottom level. It's 12-13k for the entire thing. The top is less than the bottom too so the value is closer to 20k than 30k. Saying 50k is just bull. Assuming you bash in groups of two then thats ~10k per person, if you have no competition what-so-ever.

Time it takes, if you're bashing both parts in 20 mins that means you can kill ~12 garwight ~23 garghoul ~10 garghast ~20 garskulls ~15 garshade in that time. So thats ~80 mobs in 20 mins to which we say... good on you, mate.

Flood=Flow. I demand my right to mistype now and then, I was an aquamancer!

Wasn't each manse a separate area? Or it works from right outside the manse to inside? Why do you have your manse forested if that means they can flow in?

And about usefulness for raiding... Well, you go to the entrance of the village, then flow to whoever you need to flow. Much faster movement than walking around all those guards and so, just my opinion.

But that thing with Northern Serenwilde adn Southern Serenwilde is really a problem