Wisp/Flow Changes

by Ethelon

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Tsakar2005-10-25 13:38:41
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Oct 25 2005, 06:35 AM)
Flood=Flow. I demand my right to mistype now and then, I was an aquamancer! smile.gif

Wasn't each manse a separate area? Or it works from right outside the manse to inside? Why do you have your manse forested if that means they can flow in?

And about usefulness for raiding... Well, you go to the entrance of the village, then flow to whoever you need to flow. Much faster movement than walking around all those guards and so, just my opinion.

But that thing with Northern Serenwilde adn Southern Serenwilde is really a problem sad.gif
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Because the only ones that can flow are forestals, so generally the forestals would forest their manses, both for the rp aspect, keeping another group from demesning it, and being able to flow between friendly manses that have the same forest type, and manses have always been all the same 'local area' which is why moonbeam works between them, and so it would still work for flow now that it is only local area
Iridiel2005-10-25 13:48:52
So, the idea is being able to flow to friendly manses when you're in the mood but that nobody can flow into yours when you're not?

Aquamances don't keep their manses flooded, don't know about geomancers but they're weird anyway. Why foresting a room inside your manse when you can just decorate the room so it looks like a forestal ambient (for RP purposes).

If you don't forest your manse you will have to walk / teleport to your friend's manse, but you'll be able to avoid raids (monoliths everywhere, no flow, happy unraidable place) and so nobody will demesne your manse with another kind of demesne either, unless it's a very rude guest. And you can always desribe the room as having a forestal look, wich would help RP more than the "and yet another boring ethereal forest is superimposed here" you have now.
Unknown2005-10-25 14:01:33
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Oct 25 2005, 01:35 PM)
Wasn't each manse a separate area? Or it works from right outside the manse to inside? Why do you have your manse forested if that means they can flow in?

And about usefulness for raiding... Well, you go to the entrance of the village, then flow to whoever you need to flow. Much faster movement than walking around all those guards and so, just my opinion.
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Manses are not a separate area. They all count as a single area.

I forest in my manse because I want trees, I want to be ready to defend if its attacked (ie, use our skills that only work in forest), and because my manse -is- forest. It'd be lovely if we could say, "See this aetherroom right here? It counts as forest and outdoors." But we can't. So I used what we had available to compromise.

Raiding - flow only works forest to forest. If you want to use it as you described, you'd need a druid to go through and forest it all first. If you need to walk around and forest it, flow really isn't going to give you much advantage. This does not apply for Serens raiding Glom areas, and Gloms raiding Seren areas, as alluded to previously.
Tsakar2005-10-25 14:03:31
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Oct 25 2005, 06:48 AM)
So, the idea is being able to flow to friendly manses when you're in the mood but that nobody can flow into yours when you're not?


Not really, just forested all the time, not saying its actually used that way, just saying it could be (for the flowing between)

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Aquamances don't keep their manses flooded, don't know about geomancers but they're weird anyway. Why foresting a room inside your manse when you can just decorate the room so it looks like a forestal ambient (for RP purposes).


Usually both are done, the description is as such as well as the foresting for functionality and look. Geomancers when I was one usually kept the guild manse tainted as well

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If you don't forest your manse you will have to walk / teleport to your friend's manse, but you'll be able to avoid raids (monoliths everywhere, no flow, happy unraidable place) and so nobody will demesne your manse with another kind of demesne either, unless it's a very rude guest. And you can always desribe the room as having a forestal look, wich would help RP more than the "and yet another boring ethereal forest is superimposed here" you have now.


They can only flow from the same type regardless, so for a seren forest manse they'd have to be in another seren forest manse, so more then likely flow would not be a worry of someone getting to you with regardless, moonbeam and unite are the primary concerns, as both ignore monoliths and are local area which manses technically are. And if the person coming to you is a mage/opposing druid chances are they will demesne it afterwards, they usually do, whether to use it against you, stop you from using yours, or to annoy

Edit: ninja.gif'd by Avaer, but yes as he said, its also for the ability to use your abilities while in your manse
Narsrim2005-10-25 15:19:48
QUOTE(Alger @ Oct 25 2005, 09:06 AM)
The amounts for the catacombs are exaggerated, you dont hit 15k for the whole of the bottom level.  It's 12-13k for the entire thing.  The top is less than the bottom too so the value is closer to 20k than 30k.  Saying 50k is just bull.  Assuming you bash in groups of two then thats ~10k per person, if you have no competition what-so-ever.

Time it takes, if you're bashing both parts in 20 mins that means you can kill ~12 garwight ~23 garghoul ~10 garghast ~20 garskulls ~15 garshade in that time.  So thats ~80 mobs in 20 mins to which we say... good on you, mate.
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I get 15k from the bottom almost everytime with 5k from the top = 20k total = 10k a piece.
Iridiel2005-10-26 09:28:22
My mistake, though moonbean was stopped by monoliths, and so flow was the only way of raiding in a monolith.
Narsrim2005-10-26 09:49:58
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Oct 26 2005, 05:28 AM)
My mistake, though moonbean was stopped by monoliths, and so flow was the only way of raiding in a monolith.
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Munsia2005-10-26 09:57:24
QUOTE(Alger @ Oct 25 2005, 09:06 AM)
if you have no competition what-so-ever.

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Rarely do these days. Ixion finally has given up on us unless he has someone else. Which I dont blame him for. Fighting against the odds isnt smart
Iridiel2005-10-26 11:21:09
Nasrim... I guess you wanted to add something besides quoting me? Because now I am really lost smile.gif

Althana never used any of those moondancer or nature skills to raid anybody manse's so I guess I lack practice smile.gif