Just a quick question, what is currently the most difficult area to bash, is it the catacombs.

No, Rockholm is - every time I have ever tried bashing a few miners for some quick comms, I keep on getting spammed with all these people running around jumping me. Totally disrupts your bashing that does.

Since some people don't see it.

Well, the only real reason why Astral is kept drained is because Magnagora prefers it being dead simply because they control the catacombs and with that think that they and their lackeys will be the only ones who will generate more titans. And before you start jumping me, it was Daevos who mentioned several times that her prefers to see Astral being dead.

Yes, I sometimes prefer that Astral is dead, although I would actually prefer more if it was alive but much more difficult to hunt on.

Secondly, I do not drain it, nor is it Magnagora's fault that it is dead. So you should really stop blaming us for everything.

I think he's hit it spot on. Does everyone -know- who all is up there draining? Individuals from all organizations are to blame.

Even if it's not the case, Magnagora could well say "Yes, we drain Astral so that we have our own Titan farm" and they shouldn't get jumped on OOC for it.

It's a good strategy really, and if your characters don't like it, deal with it IC. Daevos shouldn't have to defend himself OOC even if that was the case.

No one has a "right" to Astral any more than anyone has a "right" to the catacombs in an OOC sense. If someone takes away your bashing ground with IC means IC, deal with it there.

yea.. if Celest had a hunting ground like that, you'd better believe we'd protect it and try to keep everyone else out.

How exactly does that whole, Mags own the catacombs thing goes, last time i check it was on ethereal, and to my knowlege only serenwilde and glomdoring have cliams to any parths of the ethereal.

It's on Ethereal purely for convenience, so they didn't have to make a new plane. It is in no way connected to the rest, either physically or in theme.

Of course, I'd love to see a high level bashing ground where you don't conglutinate, just so I can laugh at people whining about it.

That would go a long way to helping Astral, actually.

Buff the creatures and stop conglutination - except during Wild Node events, of course.

Niara, Magnagora does not own the Catacombs, Magnagora does not have a single advantage down in the Catacombs, that someone else doesn't have, your claims are rediculous. We have as much advantages in claiming the Catacombs than we have in claiming Oleanvir Valley.

If Serenwilde, Glomdoring, or Celest was to randomly kill Magnagora in the Catacombs, we would have no reason until otherwise provoked.

Magnagora, however, can get away with doing it and then writing it off as "well, this used to be the old Ur'guard guildhall or some other garbage so I'm not killing you because I just like to kill random people, I'm defending my turf."

That's a huge advantage. I wish I had a bashing area that was themed around Serenwilde.

Every word there is false. You clearly know nothing of the Ur'Guard's RP, so please keep these false opinions to yourself.

I didn't invent that phrase, Ixion. That's what I was told - IC

And I do believe Alger mentioning something about it on forums. In any case, Alger has defended to some degree that Magnagora has some justification to randomly kill people in the Catacombs because of the Urlach stuffage.

The only advantage you really have is the ease with which you can RP it because of the theme. That shouldn't be underestimated, but mechanically there's nothing special about it.

Exactly.

I think thats a silly comment.

The histories are full of multiple opinions that would allow you to RP in just about way for each group to take "control" of it.

Celest can say its an old home for their warriors on the frontier, and they need to protect the spirit of thier dead and make sure Magnagoa doesn't abuse them.

Serenwilde can say that they are removing the ghosts and the undead to bring back the natural order and do not want anyone abusing them.

Glomdoring can say that everything should be theres and it needs trees because everything is theirs.

Halifax can say its close to their home and they need to ensure nobody are using the old pathways to invade villages.

Guadi can.. um have parties there or something. Ok so Gaudi would have a hard time. And I guess Ackelberry.

What are Halifax and Guadi.

Two cities mentioned in the histories and are currently frozen in time.