The Taint Wars Game 2

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Unknown2005-11-04 00:08:36
With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch
Vix2005-11-04 00:11:26
The communicating illegally thing was more of a joke... unsure.gif
Vix2005-11-04 00:28:57
On a completely random note, can we request how we're going to lynch the next person?

Let's... cut off something, set him/her aflame, zap him/her a few times, and then bury him/her alive? halo.gif
Unknown2005-11-04 05:21:21
Ibby asked me to look in on this tonight, so here it is
The: We are finally on Page 18 biggrin.gif Vote Count!

Vix- 1 (Xenthos)


Not voting (5): Tsuki, Vix, Sylphas, Cwin, Iridiel
Tsuki2005-11-04 05:40:28
Looking back over everything, I'm inclined to vote for either Iridiel or Vix.

Xenthos' scry could be true or somehow odd. Even if true and Vix is guilty, there were two night deaths, so there's potentially two scum. Going from Iridiel's past rivalry with Revan, who proved innocent, and suchlike, I'm strongly suspicious that there's something going on with her, and I want to know what. Iridiel was also not the person I investigated, so I have no other knowledge that might be relevant with regards to her ... which adds to my concern.

Vote against Iridiel
Sylphas2005-11-04 08:30:01
For now, I'm going to Vote: Iridiel.

Remember, that one of those kills could easily have been a vigilante. And scum may or may not know if anyone was recruited, because my guess is that the cult and scum are different parties. It would be incredibly bad otherwise.

Also, yay no post restriction. The bed thing was just me being bored with a plain role, and wanting random things that didn't effect the game.
Iridiel2005-11-04 09:15:37
I am innocent. If I am forced to roleclaim, I will, even if with so many scryers I doubt that will a surprise. Enough to say I am still deeply ashamed of my behaviour towards Revan, but I am against forcing the scryers to show themselves (something that they doesn't seem to mind much).
His attitude of I know it all itched me and thus, I voted him as he was the most suspicious person, and his insistence on voting for me just made him look worse.

Now, to my questions:
- If Tsuki power was stolen when targetting Revan (even if he didn't know) and targeted Quidgy who was not innocent... Did you receive a non-innocent answer? Or Laneth did and lied about it saying he was innocent?
- Regarding the number of deaths: We have one scum death, then seems that there was another attempt at the Holy Mother, and a third attempt on Laneth wich showed he was scum. That makes me think (as it's the only night with two extra kills) that we have two Vigilants going around, or a psycopath (who then, would have killed the night before too).
That would leave us with 2 scryers, 1 tracker, 2 vigilants and one undisclosed role. As we have some taintscum around, that's frankly, too much people to be one the good side. Also, as the cult recruiter died the first night, that could mean she targetted a mafia, but as tonight another cult member died we can but think she was targetted by the mafia and died, after being able to recruit another (Lanneth).

Sumarizing: Sudenly everybody has been very busy and when before nobody had any idea, now everybody knows who's guilty and who isnt. We have an excess of townie roles for the people who is alive, so somebody is lieing. Also, I doubt very much we have a random cop around, so I am tempted to believe him over Vix (who also is acting suspicious with this vote/unvote bussiness). Of course, my gut feelings aren't so good lately, and after the death of Lady Glaruda I am not thinking clearly at all. So please, if anybody finds a logical reason for Vix to be innocent, say it.
vote Vix
Also, I'd be grateful for a logical explanation on how we have so many information roles and nobody said anything until now.
Unknown2005-11-04 09:33:30
Vix- 2 (Xenthos, Iridiel)
Iridiel- 2 (Sylphas, Tsuki)


Not voting (2): Cwin, Vix

4 for some kind of gruesome death.
Iridiel2005-11-04 11:37:44
I'd also like to point out that even if Syphas gave out his true name, as Tsuki verified, that doesn't mean he's not tainted.
Iridiel2005-11-04 11:47:16
Ok, after doing some maths, I've reached the following conclusions:
We have at most 2 taintscum.
Iridiel-Innocent
Tsuki-Innocent
Vix-Guilty
Xenthos-Innocent
Cwin-Unknown
Sylphas-We know his true name, not if he's good or evil.

Provided there're two tainted, I could be killed without a right to roleclaim if the tainted ones were Vix and Cwin (the moment they vote for me, the moment I am fried). Same with Vix in case Cwin and Sylphas were tainted. So I am retiring my vote from Vix if only to make sure she's not insta-killed unvote Vix and I'd ask Tsuki to do the same (as I know he's innocent as per Xenthos scrying).
We can go all for Vix, and hope she's the only taintscum, and Xenthos was right, but if we kill another townie, we're fried.

About Xenthos being right (and thus proving Tsuki innocent and Vix guilty) I have my doubts, as that would make it 3 scryers in a single game. But as the data Tsuki receives is minimal, it can be possible.

Now, the person who hasn't voted and seems to be waiting to see what happens is Cwin. I'd like a roleclaim from him, or something to prove me he's not tainted, as I have absolutely no data about him wich is irking me. So:
vote Cwyn

Also, I can say with absolute certainity that we have a Vigilante among us, and that was the cause of Laneth death.
Iridiel2005-11-04 12:22:05
In case I am lynched, and thus proved innocent:
I am pretty sure the tainted ones are Vix and Cwin, who have been mostly lurking around letting us do all the killing.
Cwin2005-11-04 14:05:45
MOSTLY LURKING AROUND?! I've been active for every day. I lurked a bit now because of what happened yesterday (sort of ego shattering to go looking up, debating, and comming up with a strong argument only to see that you were dead wrong).

Blah. Except for that, I understand what you're getting at Iridiel and you made a powerful point: there ARE too many roles in the pack. In fact, it gets worse when you remember that the Party Recruiter died on the second night, which means two chances to recruit. Quid mistakenly told us another key point: he was recruited the second night (The comment about people accusing him the first day when he was innocent at the time). That means a possible 2 scum and 1 party goer.

For my own defense, if someone else asks for a claim (no need to vote, just a claim will do) I'll claim. As for overall.. it does look like it's between Iridiel, Vix, Sylphas, and myself. In the least, one of us is tainted. At worst, two of us are and one is a party goer, leaving only one innocent.

Of course we're all going to claim innocent. I will ask Iridiel to hold from voting on me if he's more sure about Vix than about me: A surer kill is better than an unsure kill. As for myself, I'll FoS: Vix since I don't dare vote at the moment.
Iridiel2005-11-04 14:45:14
I vote for you because it seems voting is the most sure way to get a roleclaim, and I'll be grateful for more data, and I wasn't voting for Vix just to find out that I was wrong and the two taintscums forced a lynch on her thanks to my vote smile.gif
Cwin2005-11-04 15:25:17
I guess I realy don't have to wait. Everyone else seems to be claiming and secrets is what we don't need at the moment.

En’oonki Lars, Professor and citizen of Hallifax at your service. With logic and caution I can keep a person entertained.. or angry through the night. In short, I'm your roleblocker.

Now, mind doing the same, Iridiel?
Iridiel2005-11-04 15:33:04
Lord General Dolph Inalai, at your service. Removing evil and cult from the streets since 104AE.
Here's your vigilant.
Cwin2005-11-04 15:50:34
First to comment about a kill being a 'good' kill tends to be the killer. Nice job with Quid there.

Vix, my eye is fully on you now.
Iridiel2005-11-04 16:00:31
Now... who did you roleblock the other two nights? I am starting to find out why did we have so little killing the other nights and so much tonight.
Xenthos2005-11-04 17:00:07
Now that my third scry target has roleclaimed: here are my thoughts!

Assuming Laneth wasn't purposefully trying to trick us with that slip, my night 2 reading wasn't on someone in the process of being converted. That does leave my night 1 reading up in the air, and as I picked my first night scry target by taking the first name on the list... it's possible that that person was recruited. I'd like to think I'd have gotten a guilty reading if they were in the process, but I can't be 100% sure. However, I did get an innocent reading at the time, so that's what I'm going to have to go with until I check the rest of you (or die).

Without further ado, my results:

Night one
Tsuki- Innocent, pending confirmation.

Night two
Cwin, Innocent.

Night three
Vix, guilty.

Now, a guess I have for why there were so many kills last night... we have one guilty person who can choose to either scry as innocent *OR* kill. That person may have thought that since a scrier was vanished yesterday, it was time to stop hiding and start killing. (ex, Branwyn's Kethuru role two games back). Things to ponder, at least.
Iridiel2005-11-04 17:05:11
Well, then I guess it's time to:
unvote Cwyn
FoS Sylphas and Vix

That provided your readings are true. With those cheap decks, one never knows.
Vix2005-11-04 22:39:40
Well, might as well claim. I'm Tarrawen Falgirn, Dwarven Ambassador (Yech. I don't have a beard, mind.). As Tsuki said, she can confirm my role. I can track, guard, or kill once in the night. So far, I've only tracked (last night) because I'm a total newb and didn't know these smaller games only last a few days. sleep.gif

I do not get to be scried as innocent if I don't kill since I tracked last night and Xenthos saw me as guilty.


Maybe with better organization this'll stop hurting my head so much...

Roles:
Tsuki - scrier (gets role info)
Xenthos - scrier (gets alignment) (possibly misreading his cards sometimes)
Iridel - vigilante
Sylphas - townie
Cwin - roleblocker

Cwin and Iridel, can you tell us what you did in the previous nights?