Divine Intervention

by Vix

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Ashteru2005-10-24 21:29:31
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 09:26 PM)
Some gloomie said: "the exact same way that you kill our shadow fae to "free" them. If there are consequences for killing neutral fae, there should be equal consequences for killing declared fae"

Silver honeycakes=bugged, I bugged this like... almost a month ago IRL, it's most likely collecting dust somewhere in a huge pile of 'to-do' things on Hajamin's desk.

If the honeycakes would work, we'd use them, infact EVERY time we've gone in, we've checked the silvery honeycakes before hand just in case THIS time the bug was corrected.
So, that clears up that missconception. back to the topic at hand.  Gods need to be invincible, they're worshiped and so forth. It seems like some people in this thread who were talking about another mud's gods getting down to 0hp or some other things wanted the Elder gods to be killable?  ...by mortals?  hehe, no I don't see that happening ever...and so it rests on what rules are in place that we don't know about (and shall never know about unless you get picked to work on the staff some day), and their own RP to determain what they do.

is it fair?  maybe, maybe not
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They talked about Buho, an Ephermal who once was in Lusternia and now is somewhere else, I believe.

And you don't know for sure if the honeycakes are bugged...maybe they only work on full moon or something. I won't say that they are not bugged, but...no God ever stated they are, either.
Ashteru2005-10-24 21:31:00
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 24 2005, 09:29 PM)
But that wasnt the suggest means.
The suggested means was if Xenthos killed all the fae knights then offered them he is enslaving them and this is a good thing. Queen Maeve is 100% ok with this
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Well, his Character could THINK that it's a good thing and that Maeve is okay with it. There are worse kinds of insanities out there. Like seeing everything or nothing tainted. ninja.gif
Xenthos2005-10-24 21:31:41
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 24 2005, 05:29 PM)
But that wasnt the suggest means.
The suggested means was if Xenthos killed all the fae knights then offered them he is enslaving them and this is a good thing. Queen Maeve is 100% ok with this
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spoton.gif Glad we agree.
Munsia2005-10-24 21:32:43
Its called sarcasm dry.gif
Xenthos2005-10-24 21:34:11
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 24 2005, 05:32 PM)
Its called sarcasm dry.gif
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It's called sarcasm. happy.gif
Munsia2005-10-24 21:35:22
I know you didnt just correct me mellow.gif
Xenthos2005-10-24 21:37:01
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 24 2005, 05:35 PM)
I know you didnt just correct me mellow.gif
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But you need correcting, you apparently missed the entire point of both posts. happy.gif
Ashteru2005-10-24 21:38:18
QUOTE(munsia @ Oct 24 2005, 09:32 PM)
Its called sarcasm
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QUOTE(Xenthos @ Oct 24 2005, 09:34 PM)
It's called sarcasm.
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Yes, he corrected you! Eat him! ninja.gif
Xenthos2005-10-24 21:46:43
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Oct 24 2005, 05:38 PM)
Yes, he corrected you! Eat him! ninja.gif
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mellow.gif You know, I didn't even realize that. biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-10-24 21:49:58
Ash said- And you don't know for sure if the honeycakes are bugged...maybe they only work on full moon or something. I won't say that they are not bugged, but...no God ever stated they are, either.

First of all, Albion's instructions for them don't mention a full moon, I highly doubt that restriction would be placed on them. Secondly I know for a fact your wrong on that, for the last time we tryed it was AT a full moon.


Ashteru2005-10-24 21:49:59
It's because I don't speak english as my first language, so I am a bit of a grammar nazi there. happy.gif
Ashteru2005-10-24 21:51:41
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 09:49 PM)
First of all, Albion's instructions for them don't mention a full moon, I highly doubt that restriction would be placed on them.  Secondly I know for a fact your wrong on that, for the last time we tryed it was AT a full moon.
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Yeah, see...it was only a suggestion. Maybe try out something else, or just ask Lisaera or something.

And you never know if you don't miss something that would be taken for granted by a spirit like her, like...I don't know...first influence them with seduction or something to soothe them and then give the cakes to them. *shrug*
Nyla2005-10-24 21:51:56
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 04:49 PM)
Ash said- And you don't know for sure if the honeycakes are bugged...maybe they only work on full moon or something. I won't say that they are not bugged, but...no God ever stated they are, either.

First of all, Albion's instructions for them don't mention a full moon, I highly doubt that restriction would be placed on them.  Secondly I know for a fact your wrong on that, for the last time we tryed it was AT a full moon.
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Lhiannan says the same thing in regards to blackened honey cakes.. it was tried by both sides... apparently there is a time when they are supposed to work.
Unknown2005-10-24 21:54:17
offtopic.gif Flame eminent, please stay on the topic of gods? Faethorn was moderatally tied to the topic, but anyway, please lets get back on topic? many of the threads have been recentally turning into Chat rooms, instead of threads on a specific topic.

Any other thoughts/instances of divine intervention anyone want to point out?
Isune2005-10-24 21:56:14
If a Divine sees fit to intervene, then they really should be ready to handle the repercussions of that. Somewhere farther back in this thread, there were a few mentions of how I would personally jump into stuff. Some people said it was unfair... but, then, eventually, someone reacted the way that I rather hoped.

Instead of griping about it, and grumbling, and whining that I was abusing power and creating an imbalancing situation, this person said that if I so loved people as to stand with them, then anything specifically associated with me was forfeit to fall for me. They went after my shrines, tried to get a list of my followers, without taking it to an 'attack that city and guild to get to Her' level.

That is to say, they responded to my IC interference by RPing it right back.

It is seriously against Isune's character to not react personally to seeing things she considers under her protection put in danger, and there is a lot that she considers her personal responsibility to assure protection to. She is not some distant and estranged power that considers mortals and mortal situations things to merely toy with.

On the other hand, some divine don't see it anything like that; people should deal with their own problems, blah, blah. If they speak, silence should fall across the land. If they lift their finger, cities should drop to their knees. It's all a matter of perception, and how people react to that. It's all RP.

When it steps out of the bounds of being in character and roleplay, and honestly does cause some serious problem, there is always support@lusternia.com for issues with gods.

(Just a random thought post, pardon if it's rather incomplete and doesn't address much.)
Ashteru2005-10-24 22:14:59
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 09:54 PM)
Flame eminent, please stay on the topic of gods?  Faethorn was moderatally tied to the topic, but anyway, please lets get back on topic? many of the threads have been recentally turning into Chat rooms, instead of threads on a specific topic.

Any other thoughts/instances of divine intervention anyone want to point out?
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I don't know...I see no flame, but I agree with the Faethorn/Offtopic thing. ALTHOUGH one could argue that Viravain nearly never (or never, not sure there), did anything to defend ETHEREAL GLOMDORING. She knows as well that Ethereal Glomdoring is something different than the prime plane, and she treats both differently.
Unknown2005-10-24 22:23:06
Defend... hmm I do know Elryn/Thaemorn's died a few times in the Etherglom to Viravain. then again they were dreamweaving.

But yes, She's killed quite a few people in the Etherglom (or a few people quite a few times for other reasons), and as such, just her presence is a deterant to raiding, because you never know if she is there and never know if you are going to get killed.

So even if she hasn't defended per say, it's still major factor in the defence of the Etherglom.


Goddess able to smoosh you >>>>>> 40 nighthags and shadowriders happy.gif
Ashteru2005-10-24 22:26:04
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 10:23 PM)
Defend... hmm  I do know Elryn/Thaemorn's died a few times in the Etherglom to Viravain.  then again they were dreamweaving.

But yes, She's killed quite a few people in the Etherglom (or a few people quite a few times for other reasons), and as such, just her presence is a deterant to raiding, because you never know if she is there and never know if you are going to get killed.

So even if she hasn't defended per say, it's still major factor in the defence of the Etherglom.
Goddess able to smoosh you >>>>>> 40 nighthags and shadowriders 
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Sure that it was actually Viravain and not someone else, like the incident you all talk about in prime Glom?
And I don't see that the raiding has stopped completely, even IF a goddess gets mad at you, so it doesn't seem THAT bad for many raiding guys.
Vix2005-10-24 22:28:12
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Oct 24 2005, 05:26 PM)
Sure that it was actually Viravain and not someone else, like the incident you all talk about in prime Glom?
And I don't see that the raiding has stopped completely, even IF a goddess gets mad at you, so it doesn't seem THAT bad for many raiding guys.
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It wasn't exactly killing, but a few days ago, one of our younger members was exploring Glomdoring and also took their spores. Viravain I heard made him drop them, then Glom enemied him, and then they killed him. That's my most recent example of Divine intervention.
Unknown2005-10-24 22:35:27
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Oct 24 2005, 10:23 PM)
Defend... hmm  I do know Elryn/Thaemorn's died a few times in the Etherglom to Viravain.  then again they were dreamweaving.
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Thaemorn only died once, I believe. There were about 15 gloms in the Etherglom, and we came to investigate.

We found out it was a wedding afterwards, which is why Viravain killed him, I think. We did have a chance to get away, but I was hoping for one or two phrases that would tell us what was going on.

No real issue there. smile.gif