If Maeve has declared that Glomdoring shall no longer slay her Fae people as it harms them and is not in the best interest of the Fae and Glomdoring refuses to listen, there should be consequences.

There is nothing that indicates that Mother Night desires for the Fae to be slain. She wants the Fae to be with her, which results in them being bound to her - in shadows. This is not achieve by slaying them. In fact, slaying the Fae is counter productive to this purpose.

There is no reason Glomdoring kills Fae other than to spite Serenwilde. In doing so, I feel there should be consequences as Maeve has already made it clear that slaying the Fae makes one an enemy to Faethorn and thus - her... the spiritual collection of all Fae.

It appears to be the only way to enslave the Fae knights, by turning them into essence.

The fae can still be killed and enslaved... the exact same way that you kill our shadow fae to "free" them. If there are consequences for killing neutral fae, there should be equal consequences for killing declared fae. After all, they are fae and part of Her realm.

You should speak with Maeve. She has already clarified in the past that some Fae are bound to Faethorn should as the protectors of the Fae - the Knights. There is no way to take them to Mother Moon or Mother Night.

So take them to Lisaera, Auseklis, Shikari, or Viravain instead.

You came into EtherGlom and killed Fae loyal to Mother Night. Fae slaughterer! They are Maeve's beloved people too. I thought you were pro-fae. Ohhh. You meant pro-fae when they follow what you want them to follow.

I get it now.

The thing is, Glomdoring is really pro-Mother Night/Crow. If they say kill a few fae, well yea we are going to do it. It's that whole fanatical/loyalist thing going. Our allegiance is to Glomdoring, our Patrons, Mother Night, and Crow. We aren't going to think twice if one of them asks us to punch a brownie in the head.

Edit: Fine, Xenthos. Beat me to it, I don't care.

The quest is completely FUBAR at the moment. Albion told us that we are supposed to return shadowbound Fae by giving them silvery honeycakes. I tried it - they don't do a damn thing. However, if you put the shadowbound Fae (or even Fae linked to Mother Moon) in the Well of Souls, they are purified and restored to their natural Faethorn stay to which they can be taken to either Moon/Night.

As it stands, it should be impossible to kill Fae in Faethorn and convert them with the corpse. If you are still doing that, it is a bug in the quest (one of many).

And finally, once the Fae enter Ethereal Serenwilde and Ethereal Glomdoring they are considered to be under the influence of Moon or Night who is responsible for protecting them. The consequence for killing either is Moon or Night is going to enemy you and kick your ass if you visit and Avatar.

you seriously should be drug out and shot for that....
edit: Fae knights are not for you to enslave or for us to bring to etherwilde.. they belong to faethorn they belong to the queen! NOT GLOMDORING YOU DAMNED TWIT

Incorrect. Maeve respects the rivalry between Moon and Night. She charges each to protect the Fae within their respective realms. For all purposes, Maeve only directly protects the Fae in Faethorn.

And to my understanding, Glomdoring is supposed to be able to even do anything with Fae corpses. They are supposed to capture "live" Fae.

and Narsrim you better log on so I can test my charms

It's his RP, no need to get all angry about that.


While I see your point, isn't this a bit unfair, using the reasoning that some mechanics (maybe) are broken so that you can kill Shadowbound fae.
But I guess that's up to everyones RP, not mine to judge. But then you as well should accept that others still kill neutral fae.

its his rp.

Do you know anything about the character Xenthos, besides the few times you meet each other on the battlefield? Don't think so. So you can, by NO means know if it is his RP or not...

Hint: Put a dead fae in the well of souls, and it becomes a live fae. As I said, we can convert dead fae JUST as easily as you can. And have more justification for it. "Our spirits don't care if they die or not, as long as they're bound," versus "Well, we can't harm the fae, but instead of trying to get our way to not harm them fixed we'll just kill them anyways."

It's actually not my RP, personally. Xen's never killed a fae, except the moondancer ones who are ordered to attack him. He still has some respect for most fae, and pities those who are ordered to their death against him.

Yeah, I was more generalizing anyway. If she doesn't know someone, she shouldn't judge about his RP.

So xenthos' rp is to act like a magnagoran?
Xenthos is part of glomdoring. his rp is based around Glomdoring.
killing fae knights = enemied to faethorn
leaving fae knights alone and just giving honey cakes to the fae = not enemied to faethorn
If you kill a fae knight when it is loyal to faethorn then by no means is it 'part of his rp' if he is part of the Glomdoring commune.
Its a stupid thing to even say 'oh killing them and offering them to shikari/viravain is enslaving the.' UH no. sorry try again

Some gloomie said: "the exact same way that you kill our shadow fae to "free" them. If there are consequences for killing neutral fae, there should be equal consequences for killing declared fae"

Silver honeycakes=bugged, I bugged this like... almost a month ago IRL, it's most likely collecting dust somewhere in a huge pile of 'to-do' things on Hajamin's desk.

If the honeycakes would work, we'd use them, infact EVERY time we've gone in, we've checked the silvery honeycakes before hand just in case THIS time the bug was corrected.


So, that clears up that missconception. back to the topic at hand. Gods need to be invincible, they're worshiped and so forth. It seems like some people in this thread who were talking about another mud's gods getting down to 0hp or some other things wanted the Elder gods to be killable? ...by mortals? hehe, no I don't see that happening ever...and so it rests on what rules are in place that we don't know about (and shall never know about unless you get picked to work on the staff some day), and their own RP to determain what they do.

is it fair? maybe, maybe not

I could RP that I hate the Earthlords and kill them whenever I can get out of it without repreicussions. It's all about the reasonings. Maybe the Fae knight killed a beloved and he took Revenge, and for that he got enemied? Or the fae stole the gold someone he killed once dropped, and so he killed them too.
Game mechanics shouldn't limit RP at all.

But that wasnt the suggest means.
The suggested means was if Xenthos killed all the fae knights then offered them he is enslaving them and this is a good thing. Queen Maeve is 100% ok with this