My only concern is that a graced person isn't able to use moonbean to go to enemies, as that's clearly an agresive act.

If you want just not allow graced people to moonbeam, well, some people are going to love that I am sure. One less way of escaping after vitae

Yes, my use of the term "issues" slipped yesterday. I spent over six hours on Tsuki yesterday afternoon, after having only intended to hop on for one or two to catch up on news. The 4-5 hours of ongoing discussions within the Coven of the Moon and then in person were hours I didn't get to sleep prior to a group meeting thing I had scheduled for latter that night. Ignoring the circumstances until a later time IRL wasn't going to help them get better in the meantime.

ICly, he injured the Taint. As directed, he relinquished claim and possession of the items when assured that they wouldn't be returned to the Taint, which is sticking to our RP. We have no rules against stealing in general, or use of leprechaun or pooka in specific. Precedent indicates that doing so is allowable, so long as it's for a purpose agreeable to our cause. Injuring the Taint, as it and those who follow it are either a potential or (in more cases) a demonstrated threat to the Fae, is agreeable to our cause. The Covenant forbids trade with the Taint, but trade is the exchange of goods or services not the theft of goods. Is it "conduct unbecoming a Moondancer" to steal if it injures the Taint and doesn't benefit the thief? Of course it's not ideal behaviour, but neither is it reprehensible.

As the title of this topic states, the problem was the use of Grace, not the use of Moon abilities. If Jadryga hadn't been lagging, he never would've gotten in to the stockroom. His "hi" and later comments in tells that seem willing to return the items for gold would be the best reason to punish him, but Tsuki does not know of them. I'm not sure if Jadryga told Shorlen ICly of them, either, but I hope she does in the letter I asked her to send. Tsuki cannot enforce the use or misuse of divine grace, only the divine can.

Stockrooms are protected divinely against seek/unite because there's no way players can prevent it. Stockrooms are not divinely protected against other things, hence why shopowners have to ensure that there are sigils there. Stockrooms are not protected against moonbeam because a (non-lagged) player can avoid it. Tsuki cannot take into account less-than-ideal circumstances of her reality (lag around a target). Others certainly don't, as I know there've been at least a few Seren characters killed by other characters while the Seren player was lagged or disconnected. Should those other characters be punished for not doing the player-honourable thing of acknowledging the character-insanity concept of disconnection/lag?

Personally, I'd be thrilled if no stealing-actions were forceable and leprechaun was replaced with an ego-restoring Fae. Unless or until such things are done, those actions are available to be done with understanding of consequences for the individual by those the individual worked against. It's not been a common occurence, obviously.

Though I imagine this might spark the thread to continue, you'll have to excuse my lack of replying to any replies for at least several hours as I need to work on several assignments and hopefully get to the bank and go grocery shopping.

Just like if you summon your ally out of a tight spot you have to declare them, as its technically an attack. If its your ally, declaring them to teleport isn't really a big deal as I doubt you intend to follow up by killing them. And reducing travel while graced like that would cut down on a good bit of abuse, including this situation, teleporting to people in village influencing to influence graced, and using graced people to get past guards.

It is a big deal. If I declared Acrune to teleport to him and Daevos kills Acrune, I get suspect too because I had him declared and teleport counted as an "attack." That's stupid.

The problem here is GRACE not transportation.

Guards hit through grace.

Not enemied graced people can run past them and any defenders and people can teleport or beam in. I recall various forestals complaining about that before.

Anyone not enemied can run past guards so that's a moot point. As for running past defenders, this is only an issue in villages in play... and grace just needs to go.

Please tell me how to defend against Moonbeam. Please.
Except moving away, of course.

Is there a point to this? The only way to stop beam is to move out of the room. You have 12 freakin seconds to do so. Furthermore, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out who beamed to you (since its local area) unless you happen to be in Serenwilde.

Thats probably it, its not too hard. Just have an alias that does all the going in and going out procedure for the stock rooms. If you got afk in a stock room full of stuff in it, you're stupid.

Not really, since stockrooms are supposed to be pretty safe. You can't expect that one guy, with the -ONLY- transportskill that goes through Monoliths decides to Moonbeam to you and rob you blind.

removed.

6 if not on a mono, 12 if on a mono.

Let's see... if it's stopped by monolith, it still: allows you to attack/defend yourself. Allows you to move around. Allows you to keep spamming it on your target until eventually they end up in a room with a moonbeam to them, and moonbeaming over, unless they find a sigil. Allows you to teleport using no power. Dunno, but this seems like a few advantages to me.

Just thought I'd point out that there is a skill that lets people port to you while you are flying and that it makes you reject grace and declare to do so.

When Yrael robbed shops, he did because most people didn't bother to keep an eye sigil in the stockroom so he'd enter as a soul and reform as a lich. Did this imply that lichdom needed to be downgraded - no, it meant shopkeepers have a responsibility to act accordingly to ensure their shop stockrooms are kept safe.

There is no difference with moonbeam. 12 seconds is a good bit of time to exit the shop. Not to be rude to Jadryga, but if she was lagging, 12 second lag is pushing it. I'd gather it was more an issue of not paying attention/afk than lag.

Wtf wouldn't I just walk to them if that was the case instead of wasting my time trying to get into their room with huge delay that is only local area. That isn't an advantage - that's retarded.

Didn't they fix the beam spam? That was either a bug or a design oversight, and shouldn't have worked to begin with. Letting monolith stop it makes it damn near worthless. How would we be able to attack defend ourselves? How can we move around? Oh, that's right, bring an enchanter to disenchant monos, or hope that no one is smart enough to bring one along. If we can come by and pick it up, does it really matter if we beam instead? Yes, we can teleport (local area) for no power. So?

Honestly, we bitch about Magnagoran skills or something, we get told to STFU and deal, it's not as we make it sound, etc, etc. Yet Seren skills can be ripped to shreds by people, and it's ok.

Beam spam is more of a "look at me be annoying" than anything else. Each time you beam, it resets. If I beam 37 times in a row, only the last beam works. The others all cancel as soon as another starts.

I don't care how it plays out in general, but I don't like the fact you can invade my stockroom and the only thing I can do is leave it quick. Maybe eye sigil could stop it? Guess you won't like it either...

No. If anything, make stockrooms simply disallow all teleportation.

Honestly, though, if anywhere was supposed to be invulnerable, it would be made that way. Obviously, stockrooms are not considered such a place by the Gods. Whether you like that or not doesn't make much of a difference. Argue that point, don't try and get every one of our useful skills nerfed.

And really, "I don't like having to move" is about as good an argument as me saying "I don't like having to sip health, nerf damage attacks".