Unknown2005-11-17 03:51:37
Deadline for night choices is 12pm EST, Thursday, Nov 17.
Also, I need a replacement for Jasper in Taint Wars 4. Please PM/IM me if interested.
Also, I need a replacement for Jasper in Taint Wars 4. Please PM/IM me if interested.
Unknown2005-11-17 09:44:44
You wake up to find...
Revan, Professor Lars – Guardian in a pool of his own blood. Pro-Taint/Innocent
and...
Ye of Little Faith, Lolly Pringle Poisonist clutching a vial of poison in death. Serial Killer
Sorry about the lack of story.
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Revan, Professor Lars – Guardian in a pool of his own blood. Pro-Taint/Innocent
and...
Ye of Little Faith, Lolly Pringle Poisonist clutching a vial of poison in death. Serial Killer
Sorry about the lack of story.
With 8 alive, it's 5 to lynch.
Iridiel2005-11-17 12:05:48
Well, has anybody any useful info?
We've lost a protector, but in exchange we got rid of a serial killer. The scum still wanders around undetected.
I think we must have run out of protective people, so it would be dangerous for the investigative ones to become visible. Wich will make our job harder
Well, for a start I am going to FoS Suhnaye and Wesmin mostly because after reviewing the thread their names are mentioned pretty often (Of course, with all that Daganev stuff everybody else went into background). I know that's not a valid reason for a vote, so I am just FoSing in the hopes of sending this thread back to were we were before Daganev. And as YoLF isn't here anymore, the other two most mentioned people are those ones.
We've lost a protector, but in exchange we got rid of a serial killer. The scum still wanders around undetected.
I think we must have run out of protective people, so it would be dangerous for the investigative ones to become visible. Wich will make our job harder
Well, for a start I am going to FoS Suhnaye and Wesmin mostly because after reviewing the thread their names are mentioned pretty often (Of course, with all that Daganev stuff everybody else went into background). I know that's not a valid reason for a vote, so I am just FoSing in the hopes of sending this thread back to were we were before Daganev. And as YoLF isn't here anymore, the other two most mentioned people are those ones.
Iridiel2005-11-17 12:11:37
Ok, more things:
YoLF had a poison vial in his hands. That can mean he wanted to kill but found a protected victim or was roleblocked. Also, Revan was in a pool of blood, wich doesn't sound very much like poison, so maybe, just maybe, another person killed Revan, who protected YoLF planned victim.
So that would mean somebody in the town side must be a vigilant or we have cult (but then, with so many deaths, we would have found some kind of cult member around?). Also, Tsuki died of loss of blood, so then does that mean YoLF didn't do anything that nigth (weird, as to win he needs to kill everybody else) or was blocked, and we can blame the Mafia for killing Tsuki.
I am working purely out of speculation, so if I am sidetracking please don't hesitate to point it out.
YoLF had a poison vial in his hands. That can mean he wanted to kill but found a protected victim or was roleblocked. Also, Revan was in a pool of blood, wich doesn't sound very much like poison, so maybe, just maybe, another person killed Revan, who protected YoLF planned victim.
So that would mean somebody in the town side must be a vigilant or we have cult (but then, with so many deaths, we would have found some kind of cult member around?). Also, Tsuki died of loss of blood, so then does that mean YoLF didn't do anything that nigth (weird, as to win he needs to kill everybody else) or was blocked, and we can blame the Mafia for killing Tsuki.
I am working purely out of speculation, so if I am sidetracking please don't hesitate to point it out.
Iridiel2005-11-17 12:19:52
Also (sorry about the posting spam, but I cannot edit) we have an Apothecary who is pro-taint (but nowhere it says tainted) and a Guardian who is tainted.
Can that mean we had a protector with lesser powers that was on some cult of masonry of pro-taint people? And so, do we have to suppose we have untainted people that are pro-taint helping us?
Can that mean we had a protector with lesser powers that was on some cult of masonry of pro-taint people? And so, do we have to suppose we have untainted people that are pro-taint helping us?
Unknown2005-11-17 12:40:43
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Nov 17 2005, 07:19 AM)
Also (sorry about the posting spam, but I cannot edit) we have an Apothecary who is pro-taint (but nowhere it says tainted) and a Guardian who is tainted.
Can that mean we had a protector with lesser powers that was on some cult of masonry of pro-taint people? And so, do we have to suppose we have untainted people that are pro-taint helping us?
Can that mean we had a protector with lesser powers that was on some cult of masonry of pro-taint people? And so, do we have to suppose we have untainted people that are pro-taint helping us?
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Going from the role names, I'm geussing that Tsuki was a guardian that could protect against YoLF's type of attack? possibly only against YoLF's type of attack?
2 night kills n2 Vs. 1 night kill n1 means that docs/rb'ers picked worse choises this last night. I geuss I'm going to wait and see what others think about that.
Iridiel2005-11-17 12:43:26
After Ibby changes to the first post (putting everybody as pro-taint) my previous post on the subject of a mason untainted organization go down the drainpipe. Ignore them, unless you have any information I don't
And Wesmin, I am FoSing you and you just ignore me! *pouts*
And Wesmin, I am FoSing you and you just ignore me! *pouts*
Cwin2005-11-17 14:33:12
Poisonist.. apothecary. Oooh, Therapist was a role aimed at sociopaths: if the therapist scries that person then the sociopath turns into a normal townie.
In any case, by how it sounds, we did have a SK/Mafia/Other setup, either with a cult (which would be 3 people now) or a vigilant, or one of those off-beat roles.
Time to dive into the last day and see what we can bring up.
In any case, by how it sounds, we did have a SK/Mafia/Other setup, either with a cult (which would be 3 people now) or a vigilant, or one of those off-beat roles.
Time to dive into the last day and see what we can bring up.
Unknown2005-11-17 14:46:05
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Nov 17 2005, 07:43 AM)
And Wesmin, I am FoSing you and you just ignore me! *pouts*
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There, I'm not ignoring you I just didn't see anything to refute, since you didn't bring any information up why you were FOS'ing me other then "my name was brought up" ya, I posted a lot during the end when Daganev was doing...whenver he was doing, or just being stupid; but that alone doesn't say anything for or against me, other then I was very active at that point in the thread.
Iridiel2005-11-17 14:49:33
What I was referring to was the fact that you were voted by several persons, mostly due to being inactive I think, but anyway.
Guys, we need to get this conversation going... Anybody has any useful information?
Guys, we need to get this conversation going... Anybody has any useful information?
Unknown2005-11-17 15:00:05
QUOTE(Cwin @ Nov 17 2005, 09:33 AM)
In any case, by how it sounds, we did have a SK/Mafia/Other setup, either with a cult (which would be 3 people now) or a vigilant, or one of those off-beat roles.
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A 3 person cult would be SCARY, and I don't want to think about that right now, at any rate, we have a kill n1, and cults try to recruit more then kill? (correct me if I'm wrong on that), of course that could have been YoLF killing Tsuki, but considering what their 2 roles were, YoLF might not have been able to kill Tsuki. in any case I'm rather leaning toward SK(might be a second SK) ((then again there might be a Vig out there who hasn't made a kill yet, but there is no real info for or against that)), and a single Mafia(2-3 members) a 4 person mafia would just be way to overpowered, and with 2 mafia groups at at least 1 SK we would have had more then 1 death n1.
also there was Tsuki/YoLF, so for all we know there might be another weird pairing out there.
Unknown2005-11-17 15:00:53
ya I was a bit inactive there for awhile, I'm sorry about that.
Narsrim2005-11-17 15:23:01
QUOTE(Kiarlea @ Nov 11 2005, 11:23 AM)
Anyhows, I'm going to throw in my (late) random vote....
vote Sylphas cause you've been even quieter than me as far as I can tell. Meh.
Voting me because I haven't posted that much (when it's frigging 2am in the morning my time, thanks guys) is stupid, especially if you look at who I was in my last game.
vote Sylphas cause you've been even quieter than me as far as I can tell. Meh.
Voting me because I haven't posted that much (when it's frigging 2am in the morning my time, thanks guys) is stupid, especially if you look at who I was in my last game.
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After reading back through the comments, I'm going to FoS Kiarlea
I just don't like how defensive and aggressive she has been. Furthermore, the quote just irks. She basically is saying that it is "ok" to randomly vote for anyone but her because if you do vote for her - it is a stupid reason. Wtf?
Iridiel2005-11-17 15:51:20
From what I've seen about her, Kiarlea is just acting herself, and overreacting quite a bit. No mafia would be yelling at us to vote her so eagerly. That's one of the reasons I withdrew my vote on her a while ago, as I find other people more dangerous (I tend to be suspicious of sneakyness)
After lynching Daganev and losing a day just because he was acting dumb I am not counting much on people overreacting and telling us we're doing wrong in voting for them just because. I bet Kiarlea will end up being yet another townie.
After lynching Daganev and losing a day just because he was acting dumb I am not counting much on people overreacting and telling us we're doing wrong in voting for them just because. I bet Kiarlea will end up being yet another townie.
Narsrim2005-11-17 15:52:44
But don't we have another serial killer or something out there?
Narsrim2005-11-17 15:53:27
Or rather, I'll ask: how is it possible for two people to die if one of them that did die was the poisonist...?
Iridiel2005-11-17 15:55:45
One kill by mafia, another by a vigilant?
And maybe a protector/roleblocker blocking the poisonist for the second consecutive night?
And maybe a protector/roleblocker blocking the poisonist for the second consecutive night?
Narsrim2005-11-17 15:57:07
Damn, that's complicated. Anyhoo, I still don't like how Kiarlea tried to say that she could vote for people at random, but it was "stupid" or "misinformed" to do the same for her.
My FoS, which really means nothing truly, stands.
My FoS, which really means nothing truly, stands.
Cwin2005-11-17 16:01:55
Ok. Let's see now.
Firstly, cults are one of the more 'flexable' roles out there: there's enough versions of them to make our heads spin. Most I can go off of is the cult from last game: Leader had the power to recruit or kill each night. As such, if they recruited every night this game they'd be a 3 member group now. I think cults can potentialy be MUCH worse than a mafia: Blah, the game would've been theirs if I didn't off the head second Night.
for now, I'm not going to panic, and just going to hope there's no cult. If we DO see a cultist die, we're in deep trouble.
Now,
Kiarlea is being defensive. On the other hand, she also seems realy angry in general. It actualy feels genuine so I can't find any suspisions for her. FoS Kiarlea just to watch.
That's all I have for now. I'll look more into it later.
Firstly, cults are one of the more 'flexable' roles out there: there's enough versions of them to make our heads spin. Most I can go off of is the cult from last game: Leader had the power to recruit or kill each night. As such, if they recruited every night this game they'd be a 3 member group now. I think cults can potentialy be MUCH worse than a mafia: Blah, the game would've been theirs if I didn't off the head second Night.
for now, I'm not going to panic, and just going to hope there's no cult. If we DO see a cultist die, we're in deep trouble.
Now,
Kiarlea is being defensive. On the other hand, she also seems realy angry in general. It actualy feels genuine so I can't find any suspisions for her. FoS Kiarlea just to watch.
That's all I have for now. I'll look more into it later.
Iridiel2005-11-17 16:03:19
I think we must be around 3 mafia, 5 townies around. I still think we would have found a cult if it existed, or we're being very unlucky (3 deaths so far, no cult).
Of course, I've been proven wrong more than one time Like when voting for Daganev.
Now, maybe Daganev knew who was YoLF due to extra information received and that's why he wanted him dead so fiercely? Is there any role that could tell a townie "I've protected you from YoLF"?
Of course, I've been proven wrong more than one time Like when voting for Daganev.
Now, maybe Daganev knew who was YoLF due to extra information received and that's why he wanted him dead so fiercely? Is there any role that could tell a townie "I've protected you from YoLF"?