A lynch is not a night kill. Other than that, expect what you choose to expect, you'll get no help from us .

If we decide to make a deadline we will.

Oh will you? Don't get a tone with me, young man. I may have to break out my paddle if you do again.

Oh Narsrim, promises promises.

Yolf, Suhnaye, and Kiarlea seem the most suspicious to me. Based on the types of words they use and a few other factors.

Part of me just wants to get rid of the people who are the most likely to hold up the game on a later date, meaning Sylphas/Wesmin/Kiarlea but just voting for them might hurt us in the long run.

Also odd that my last post did not have its desired affect. Very curious.

It was hardly out of paranoia, and now I've more interest in keeping my vote on you. The only method the innocent have to ferret out scum is to get a lot of talk from everyone. If the first day lasts ages, I find that usefull, because it gives a lot to think about come day two, three, and four. I don't think we are getting nowhere, I think we are making a great deal of progress, I've gone from voting blindly to voting with more confidence and purpose. That is progress.

Finally, your wanting to vote for YoLF is by all rights perfectly acceptable... He does seem suspicious, and it makes sense to want the day to end. But the shorter days are, the less information we have to work off of.



What types of words are suspicious?... I use the same words I always use...

If I told you what words you would purposefully avoid them in the future, now wouldn't you?

Eh, me, hold the game up? Goddamn it, ask Ibby, I'm always storming on about how slowly things are moving.

If you actually realised who my main alt is, you'd also realise that my attitude is pretty darn normal.

I fail to see how I'm being defensive over and over. *shrugs* You guys have been going on about how defensive I am for the entire day and a half that I was gone. *wry* I'm only amused by it now, really, after the amount of alcohol I imbibed last night. (I love that word, imbibed).

Well, this is really just a post to say, I'm back, and you're all amusing me already

So let the interesting posts start again.

Oh, and unvote Sylphas. Not throwing my vote around again yet, though I dislike Xenthos and Narsrim more than most. That might just be disliking Narsrim for being Narsrim and Xenthos for not realising who I am, though

FoS: YoLf because the game I'm in where he is modding has completely died

*hides from Ibby's modkill*

I'm really not sure, Sylphas? are you still confused about Day kills and Night kills?

Mafia useally get 1 kill between however many are in the mafia, if there are 2 mafia groups then each mafia gets a kill.

SK's and Vigs are differant and get a kill that's all their own, the differance between them is Vig's are townies, and useally don't kill on the first day (they don't want to acidentally kill their fellow townies) where as SK's useally kill indesriminatally or try to target the mafia or Vigs. who are there biggest threats.

If we have SK(s) in this game it's VERY likely we have a Role Blocker, or Doctor, or more then one, or some role similar (because this game, by title has advanced roles in it) and because if we've got an SK and a Mafia(almost unheard of not to have a mafia with a group this big) you'd need to have a bunch of SK's and games with a lot of Sk's in it get unbalanced, so I don't think Ibby would do that. anyway if we've got an SK and Mafia, they why didn't we have 2 kills last night? (suports my rb/doc theory)

If we have a Vig(s) in the game it's more then likely they didn't kill Tsuki, as I've mentioned before, they useally try to be careful and not kill townies(cause it can really mess up the game for the townies)

I say we all vote for Wesmin if he doesn't vote the next time he posts.

Um, I'm not sure why everyone thinks I'm confused, I was just saying that 3 night kills (vig, sk, mafia) and one day kill sounds a bit high to me, but that's only if no guardians or anything interfere, so maybe it's normal.

Also, judging from the single kill last night, either several people got lucky, or we have less night kills than that. No way to be sure at this point, but and I don't have the experience with different kinds of games that others do, but it sounds high to me.

As for the game, Daganev was suspicious before, but certain words? You're either a genius, crazy as hell, or a really obvious scum. Not sure which at this point.

I don't understand how you can play a game like this and NOT take into acount the subtle connotations of words and phrases that people use?

Daganev, to be perfectly honest with you I wouldn't change a damned thing about how I talk regardless of what you said was suspicious. This is how I talk in RL, this is how I talk IC on Lusternia (Unless I'm on an alt I'm playing around with), this is how I talk on the forums. *Sighs* So go and giggle it up about how I talk, however that might be. In any case, I'll be sticking with my vote for Narsrim for at least a little while longer... Along with a strong FoS against Daganev...

No one said that we had a Vig and a SK and a Mafia in this game. and thus 3 people with killing roles.

But chances are we do, as I said in my post, if we have a Vig they almost without a doubt didn't make the hit on Tsuki. and there are differant ways the Vig role can be changed, it could be a 1-shot Vig, or have the ability to kill a set number of times in the game, or kill/protect, or... well there are innumerable ways this game can be changed by the mod, and Ibby's said in the past not to try to out-geuss her (even though I try to anyway )

But ya, Mafia is all about the killing roles, without them the game doesn't progress at all, and all the other power roles are built off of stopping or redirecting or changing or learning about the killing roles in time to win the game.

Heh, I'm all for lynching Wesmin so he'll shut up.

Blah, I told you guys already: NEVER outguess the mod. We had a Soulless Game with a Vig/SK/Mafia setup. It also had two Docs and a Roleblocker, but that game didn't have the crazy-go-nuts stuff that were in later games (i.e. insane cop, 1 shot vit-doc-tracker, Timmie ) and everyone had a role.

As such, if it doesn't completely unbalance the game then it'll happen. You CAN see something crazy like 5 Vig and 1 Mafia, though, since you can balance it with nutty things like Vigs that are traitors, Mafia that's a cult, Mafia with Enigma (kill one, get one random kill free!), people who can be reborn, so on so forth.

The fact there was one kill does heavily suggest 1 mafia family. I'm not going to be sure until day 2, though. Cults are another beast: You basicly can never tell they're around until one of them dies and even if they can kill, it'll be day 2 at least till they do. Vigs are a bother to figure out, since when they do kill it'll look like SK kills.

And Wesmin: How to do you feel about the way the players have been acting so far? I'd love to hear a few ideas on that (especialy because we're a little bandwagon-blocked at the moment)

Kiarlea: 1 (Iridiel)
Suhnaye: 1 (Cwin)
Ye of Little Faith: 3 (Narsrim, Revan, Daganev)
Daganev: 3 (Ye of Little Faith, Xenthos, Sylphas)
Narsrim: 1 (Suhnaye)

Not voting: Wesmin, Kiarlea

6 to lynch.

Hmm, well Kiar seems to enjoy voting for loudmouths. That's not the most intelligent thing to do, in my opinion. I'll be keeping an eye out on her, but my vote for YoLF remains