Guaridan Races - pvp

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Unknown2005-10-31 02:39:18
In those rather rare situations, yeah.
Unknown2005-10-31 02:53:57
If the question was have i beat him before i would say yeah (luck or not ive done it) but since you feel that Loboshigaru is the way to go thats your opinion im sticking with my opinion that aslarans are a good race to be as a Celestine.
Shiri2005-10-31 07:29:19
QUOTE(Ixion @ Oct 31 2005, 01:44 AM)
FYI Putre utterly sucks unless you are fighting about 15+ guards or two Supernals at the same time.
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Since guards do neutral damage and putrefaction only blocks physical damage, I'd say that your mentioning the first scenario indicates that you don't really know how good it is at all and are just saying it's bad 'cause you have it. tongue.gif
Qaletaqa2005-11-01 21:15:38
Most of the top Celestine fighters have always been a high constitution race such as a lucidian, dracnari, and loboshigaru. Except Ethelon who I believe at the end switched to mugwump before he left Celest.

I believe Galvadore was/is a dracnari and I wouldn't know how the sip penalty would work. However, dracnari still have high strength, intellect, and constitution.

The only really skilled fighters I can think of were Ethelon, Amaru, Atherius, and Galvadore off the top of my head. Atherius is surprisingly a human though.
Ethelon2005-11-01 22:38:22
I was actually Aslaran and with that speed I was unkillable in 1 on 1 fighting, even Valek at the time and Daevos ran from me. The first time I went Mugwump was when I went back to Druids.
Unknown2005-11-01 23:39:07
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The only really skilled fighters I can think of were Ethelon, Amaru, Atherius, and Galvadore off the top of my head. Atherius is surprisingly a human though.


Im sad how Deangelo didnt make that list Im pretty sure i was really good as a Celestine. sad.gif
Ceren2005-11-02 02:01:55
You were good, just didn't have enough lessons.
Unknown2005-11-02 02:23:48
True if i had focus mind and tumble i wouldnt die so much, soulless isnt really needed when i was a merian so judgement and absolve carried me through most battles.
Eiru2005-11-02 18:30:43
I never ever used putre VS damage knights, it's not worth it.

It's not even worth using for bashing.
silimaur2005-11-02 21:51:09
well i dont see how you can say numen is so much better, if i numen takes between 5 and 10 seconds to regain equilibrium, i then hit maybe 8 times as a knight and it dissapears..and im lucky if it lasts that long, in pvp i found taht its completely useless unless your just trying to tank smoeone like ixions initial burst of lunges otherwise its a huge waste of power and vs mobs it doesnt last long enough to be useful.
But then again i usually cant tank ixions 5 lunges anyway sad.gif last time it hit my vitality then took me to 800 health and to 60 mana after clotting...
Unknown2005-11-02 21:58:14
What do you mean between 5 and 10? Is it random or what?
I wouldn't really know how it works in pvp, I can imagine it's troublesome to use it... but it should be damn good for tanking powerful mobs.
silimaur2005-11-02 22:10:40
by 5 to 10 seconds means i dont know which, its just around that
Unknown2005-11-04 01:13:19
numens only usefulness is in tanking enough damage to get away, i was able to tank daevos, ixion and alger long enough to get away when they attacked me on water. Other wise in combat its really hard to keep up 4 power almost every 40 seconds.The amount of time numen last is random so you cant rely on it for long.
Narsrim2005-11-04 04:09:51
If I were a celestine, I'd ask for numen to be a defense than gives likes like 25% protection to all forms of damage, lasts 15 minutes, 5p cost.
silimaur2005-11-04 12:11:12
i think numen is fine as it is, though it isnt the most useful skill it can be used effectively in certain situations like escape and allowing me to tank 10 eagles for about 5 minutes...
Ekard2005-11-04 13:25:09
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Nov 4 2005, 06:09 AM)
If I were a celestine, I'd ask for numen to be a defense than gives likes like 25% protection to all forms of damage, lasts 15 minutes, 5p cost.
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There are two more useles skills in Sacraments. No i dont mean Inquisitio and Truheal tongue.gif.

Ablution and Lustration are those skills.

Syntax: STARCHANT LUSTRATION
Power: 2 (Pool of Stars)
The ritual of lustration will open your mind to hold more than it normally
would.

Syntax: STARCHANT ABLUTION
Power: 2 (Pool of Stars)
With the ritual of ablution upon your body, you will be extremely healthy.


Here how they works:

6724h, 2041m, 4394e, 10p, 22205en, 19535w elrxk-<14:14:29.346> starchant lustration

You cleanse your soul through the chant of the Holy Lustration, and a golden
purity infuses your spirit.
6724h, 2453m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19385w lrxk-<14:14:35.475> sc

Veradin, Sir Ekard Peulus, Shakiniel's Charge
Sex : Male Race : Human
Level : 89 (12%) Rank : 2nd Rank of the Infinite
Health : 6724/6724 Endurance : 22205/22205
Mana : 2453/2063 Willpower : 19385/19535
...
...
You are 54 years old.
You were born on the 9th of Estar, 78 years after the Coming of Estarra.
6724h, 2453m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19385w lrxk-<14:14:37.348>
-----===== EQUILIBRIUM =====-----
6724h, 2428m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19386w elrxk-<14:14:39.691>

It give me 20% more mana for lustration and 20% health for ablution, but wont rise my max. And this cost 2power for each use.
If i have less then max it just heal my health (ablution) or restore my mana (lustration). 20% of my max mana/health, so its basicly like additional sip of mana or health potion, but it cost 2p each time. And it have 4 sec eq balance.

If my mana (for lustration) or health (for ablution) is over 3000-3500 then it wont give me additional 20% of health or mana.

6724h, 2057m, 4394e, 10p, 22205en, 19535w elrxk-<14:20:28.593> starchant ablution

You cleanse your mortal frame through the chant of the Holy Ablutions, and a
divine purity washes over your body.
6724h, 2063m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19385w lrxk-<14:20:29.804>

Nothing changed for ablution.

Noone use those skills.

I requested change for them in envoy report but they didnt change it.

I wanted those skills to be like yellow/geburah. For 3 power lustration would add 1 point to int for same time as geburah/yellow and ablution would give 1 point to constitution for 1 hour too, just like geburah and yellow.

I think its fair change.

PS. Trueheal and Inquisition needs upgrades too tongue.gif
Ceren2005-11-04 13:30:00
That's probably Surge messing up your max health. It works as intended for me, but is still a lot worse than Healer tarot, since boosting over max is really quite useless.
Unknown2005-11-04 13:36:46
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Nov 4 2005, 06:09 AM)
If I were a celestine, I'd ask for numen to be a defense than gives likes like 25% protection to all forms of damage, lasts 15 minutes, 5p cost.
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I guess I'm glad you aren't. That's too good!

QUOTE(Ekard @ Nov 4 2005, 03:25 PM)
I wanted those skills to be like yellow/geburah. For 3 power lustration would add 1 point to int for same time as geburah/yellow and ablution would give 1 point to constitution for 1 hour too, just like geburah and yellow.

I think its fair change.

PS. Trueheal and Inquisition needs upgrades too tongue.gif
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Man if not for the last line, I'd think you're serious.

Lustration and ablution look useless, but don't you think you have enough already? tongue.gif
Upgrade Nihilists first! rolleyes.gif
Ekard2005-11-04 13:40:35
My bad its not 3000-3500 but around 5000 (my bad my last tests were long time ago i forgot what number it was, i tested again now) as i cant reach more then 4952 health or mana with it.

Here is without surge.

4661h, 4127m, 4394e, 10p, 22205en, 19535w elrxk-<14:31:45.486> starchant ablution

You cleanse your mortal frame through the chant of the Holy Ablutions, and a
divine purity washes over your body.
4952h, 4127m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19385w lrxk-<14:31:47.679>
-----===== EQUILIBRIUM =====-----
4952h, 4127m, 4394e, 8p, 22205en, 19391w elrxk-<14:31:51.905> starchant lustration

You cleanse your soul through the chant of the Holy Lustration, and a golden
purity infuses your spirit.
4952h, 4952m, 4394e, 7p, 22205en, 19265w lrxk-<14:32:00.337>
-----===== EQUILIBRIUM =====-----
4952h, 4952m, 4394e, 7p, 22205en, 19277w elrxk-<14:32:04.483>

I got only 291 health from Ablution. Its not even 10% of my max health and if i would have less health then it would add 20%. So when it would be worth using it wont add me this 20% of my 4661 health, it should be 932 health not 291!

So as you can see i got whole 20% for mana - 825 additional mana. It was in 4952 limit.
But if i would have more it would not add me more.
Ekard2005-11-04 13:42:44
QUOTE(Kashim @ Nov 4 2005, 03:36 PM)
I guess I'm glad you aren't. That's too good!
Man if not for the last line, I'd think you're serious.

Lustration and ablution look useless, but don't you think you have enough already?  tongue.gif
Upgrade Nihilists first! rolleyes.gif
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Ok, Inquisition and Truheal could not be changed but Ablution and Lustration needs some upgrade!
And then move to Nihilists. They are to powerful, nerf them! tongue.gif