Altough there is a large chance that I spelled that incorrectly I was wondering about the Aslaryan's in the moors and why some peopel dont want them to die. I understand not killing the Sumante(sp?) guy but all the others seem like fair game to me. If there is a poece of the equation i missing then tell me so I can decide for myself if its worth it. Thanks

That piece of the equation is called RP. They have a bond to their race and don't want the innocent to die.

Unless they're like me and care more for profit than racial pride.

And the female aslaran is called Surtami.

Ok, thats kewl, I was wondering thanks.

Aslaran. Also, Aslaran's indicates possessive, while aslarans makes it plural. A god also once told me that races were not to be capitalized, per Estarra.

So with that out of the way... Roleplaying! That's the reason. If you're an aslaran, you should probably have a good roleplay reason for hunting the others. This isn's a game where you kill everything you can to get the "mad exp", or at least, it's not meant to be (that's the reason we don't have any pure hunting areas). I kill spectres because it cuts the string they're hanging onto, far past thier time. I hunt astral because they're big nasties, and fair game for training. But some things hold a significance to players, and they'll fight to defend that.

Many things in Lusternia are not "fair game", because this isn't a hack-and-slash game.

It's not like an OOC consideration like not killing the quest heads if that's what you're worried about, slay away.

Typo city yeesh.
Aslaran
Surtami
people
although
piece

YOUUUUUU. You have no place talking about writing problems! *hiss* None!

Neither do I, but that made me shudder too Download google toolbar, it lets you spellcheck things before you submit them to forums. Helps me a good bit, if I remember to use it

Heh, but then spellcheck will pick up stuff like "aslaran" and "Surtami" as spelled wrong.

More of what everybody else said, but with a bit more oomph.

The game asks us to pretend that these are intelligent, civilized creatures, with homes and lives and families, hopes and dreams and aspirations. It also asks us to pretend that when those who don't have names die, they're dead. Gone. Kaput. Defunct. Pushing up daisies. EX-aslaran.

And yet the admins also expect us to turn a blind eye when other players come along and slaughter them en masse, in cold blood, for no other reason than self-enrichment, because there's nothing really to be done about it, and they don't want an unwinnable war sparking a bitter, endless inter-player feud that has nothing to do with the main conflict of the game.

So those of us who care about suspension of disbelief in the game are stuck fuming and gnashing are teeth, griping amongst ourselves about the people who just don't get it, that if they conducted any sort of slaughter like this in the real world, they'd soon be strung up themselves and dead dead dead dead dead.

The aslaran are my pet peeve, because I play aslaran, but I'm not even happy about supposedly "nice" players slaughtering gnomes in Newton, which is supposed to be a dawdle of a nothing that everyone gets advised is A-OK.

End rant.

I agree with Exarius.

The difference with this game from the other IRE games is that there is an actual way to get experience without having to bash. Tully went from level 2 to level 23 just by using Influence in Newton and in Villages. (Although rat-killing was also done). You don't need to spend that many lessons in Influence to have a good method of gaining experience. Exarius or Aesyra can engage in ego battles with their brethern without going thru the kill.

It's too bad Karma can't be applied negatively as well as positively. I'd love to see an alignment system (not necessarilly tied to the community you belong to) that affected Karma--if you're good and you do good deeds it rises, do bad deeds it falls. Thus, you wouldn't have people both enslaving and freeing Estabar's furrikin from Acknor.

With respect to exp gain? Oh please.

Yes I know there are "viable" "alternatives" to bashing. That just almost makes it sound like most bashing is an RP experience. There's a reason they don't have "pure bashing" areas, because those areas are devoid of RP. You do the math.

Well in response to many but not all of the posts, I was actually asking from a village point of view, I didnt even make the connection that Aslaran was an "actual" race in the game but so is Krokoni right? Yet no one has told me not to kill those based off of RP value, although Im surre this was just omitted on accident and not on purpose. Im sure that MANY of you view the Aslarans and the Krokonis as equal people striving to live through this world and not die to the hands of powerhungry bastards that are killing them just to see how best to diliver the poision from there staffs, or the quickest way to stab through a heart. And when I say I was aslking from a villiage sense I though perhaps this was alike a power thing, you know kill the Aslarans less power to given city/commune, I now know that is not the case and FURTHER I now know how to determine if this is the case or not.

And on the sly topic of alignment, and the karma system going negative its really hard to determine when something is wrong and when something is right. Using the example freshest in our minds, the Aslarans killing the "One Eyed Freaks" cant REALLY be considered bad karma and of course vice versa. But im sure THAT has been argued through on another forum somewhere in lusternia and doesnt need to be repeated here.

Actually, those who like the aslarans hate the krokani and want you to kill them.

Krokani are people too dammit!

Such a missunderstood race.

They hate you all becouse of your freakishly good looks, thats all.

I'm sorry, but who would defend a race that lacks depth perception?

Actually, I don't particularly want people killing krokani. The aslaran of the moors have blatantly refused help in their wars with players who would slaughter them, calling it an insult we don't think they can fight their own battles. So I'm certainly not going to insult them by suggesting people should go kill the krokani.

I consider the krokani the aggressors in the conflict, and if someone's going to die out there on the moors, it ought to be them. But as a fellow aslaran, I've washed my hands of the fate of the moors villagers.

Being that my whole distate for slaughtering supposedly sentient MOBs stems from the question of WHY we're supposed to know IC that they're "just MOBs", and therefore bash-able, it would be hypocritical of me to say, "Well, the moors aslaran just don't want help fighting off people who AREN'T MOBs. It's okay to beat up MOBs in their defense."

So: you want to slaughter krokani, I'm not going to say a word about it. But slaughter them myself or tell anyone they should? Not going to happen.

What they lack in depth perception they make up in deep perception.

I'll let you ponder that one.