Gambling

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Sakr2010-10-15 21:08:11
Numbers:


10:30

11 black
18 red
24 red
24 red
28 red
25 black
12 red
10 red
6 red
1 black
00 green
12 red
30 red
11 black
33 black
36 red
26 red
3 black
1 black
33 black
19 black
5 black
00 green
36 red
13 black
13 black
29 black
5 black
30 red
23 black
19 black
5 black
0 green
2 red
1 black
22 red
13 black
32 red
8 red
32 red
13 black
16 red
1 black
00 green
18 red
16 red
10 red
16 red
18 red
14 red
2 red
18 red
29 black
1 black
29 black
3 black
9 black
7 black
9 black
22 red
20 red
2 red
21 black
12 red ------- 11:00 pm
3 black
15 black
0 green
32 red
1 black
32 red
14 red
29 black
4 red
31 black
24 red
28 red
2 red
34 red
27 black
28 red
2 red
24 red
12 red
19 black
21 black
8 red
29 black
25 black
1 black
19 black
8 red
24 red
24 red
29 black
0 green
24 red
15 black
21 black
14 red
7 black
1 black
33 black
29 black
21 black
0 green
10 red
29 black
8 red
17 black
25 black
25 black
7 black
24 red
24 red
33 black
17 black
5 black
32 red
25 black ---- 11:30
1 black
13 black
25 black
0 green
15 black
33 black
14 red
14 red
23 black
8 red
0 green
3 black
33 black
20 red
36 red
26 red
8 red
1 black
10 red
10 red
5 black
30 red
3 black
00 green --- 11:43
12 red
3 black
14 red
16 red
3 black
19 black
23 black
31 black
29 black
0 green --- 11:48
21 black
34 red
15 black
8 red
1 black
30 red
35 black
14 red
10 red
15 black
17 black
21 black
16 red
32 red
31 black
4 red
2 red
6 red
5 black
21 black
12 red
32 red -- 12:00 (note: takes 15 seconds per gamble)
22 red
12 red
11 black
33 black
23 black
5 black
31 black
36 red
35 black
23 black
6 red
11 black 12:05

began with 15k, ended up with 330252 gold.

if you can't take anything from this, take the times and learn from them. And then spend all the money you get at my shop.
Unknown2010-10-15 21:51:12
I worked it out a long, long time ago and can explain gambling in just a single word.

"Luck"

Welcome to the world of pRNG's.
Ssaliss2010-10-16 00:12:51
QUOTE (Rampart @ Oct 15 2010, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked it out a long, long time ago and can explain gambling in just a single word.

"Luck"

Welcome to the world of pRNG's.

Analyzing the data gathered over the course of four sets of 1000 spins, I tend to agree with you. Although I suppose I was lucky and always ended up on top after those 1000 spins tongue.gif
Sakr2010-10-16 08:22:06
QUOTE (Rampart @ Oct 16 2010, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I worked it out a long, long time ago and can explain gambling in just a single word.

"Luck"

Welcome to the world of pRNG's.


Then you worked it out wrong.

0, 00 I consider wildcards. Didn't find out if there is a specific thing about them except that after:
0 is rolled, next number is usually (red, black ...) or (black, red)
00 tends to be the opposite of 0.

24 24 28 25, high numbers rolled, means that there will be a lower number, usually t2 then more often t1. What comes next : (12,10), (6,1) Note: in most other sets, after a string of high numbers, it will go to t1.

0 green 32 red 1 black 32 red 14 red 29 black 4 red 31 black 24 red 28 red 2 red 34 red 27 black 28 red 2 red

in this line, we have a green. Green goes to red, which goes to black, and then red again.

0 green, 32 red, 1 black, 32 red

Notice, the extremes as well. This happens more often than you might think. Now we have a q1 bet, go up to q4 when you see a number thats t1 and below. You have a good chance of getting a higher score there.

Now 32 14 29 drops to 4

lets call this high numbers. High numbers when rolled are going up in the percentage that a lower number will be rolled. If you don't feel safe on this. Bring a friend with you. You bet on q1, let your friend bet on q2, let the winner give the loser the initial earnings and split the remaining 2x gold.

And look, it repeats again:

31, 24, 28, 2
34, 27, 28, 2

00 green --- 11:43
12 red
3 black
14 red

0 green --- 11:48
21 black
34 red
15 black

Notice how the 0 and the 00 are reversed in the colors that happen after that. This usually happens.

Now back on the topic of luck. It's less of luck than noticing something called patterns. If you can notice these patterns then you would realize that luck is something that people say when their brains are already analyzing this censor.gif and would give you that feeling to go for this or this. It isn't counting cards mind. Sometimes you would get a string of 9 reds lets say, but they still operate under the rules of numbers.

So yeah.. luck? Don't use that word, there is no such thing as luck.
Unknown2010-10-16 11:12:17
How do you explain those times when five comes up four times in a row? What's the pattern there? biggrin.gif

I'm not convinced that these patterns you're finding truly exist. Your sample size seems to be on the small side. You forgot the standard YMMV disclaimer.
Sakr2010-10-16 11:20:30
i have 48 hours of testing done heh. Now I cannot explain when 5 comes up 4 times in a row, haven't seen that yet. I'm just building probability set of rules for roulette. And these are the rules I adhere to.

Now thats saying that Lusternian gambling is different than american gambling.

And I'm going on the offset that there was a method to me making 5, 6 million gold from gambling, but that's me.

And remember, statistics is a bloody lie. That's the most important rule I think
Unknown2010-10-16 11:41:10
Since the RNG is fairly uniform, you just need to spread out your betting over time and be patient in waiting for your magic number to come up. It usually works for me, but I've also gone through 70 spins without getting my number, so there's no guarantee.
Sakr2010-10-16 11:53:29
hm, i don't bet single numbers much. I always go for reds/blacks, t1 2 3, or q1 2 3 4.

Try this. Find a friend, and gamble together. if you see a string up numbers that are in the 24-36, one of you bet q1, the other bets q2. Loser gets from winner initial investment, and you both split the winnings. It's better if you both are working towards a certain cause (i.e. aethermanse expansion), then you both share the money you win. example:

50k on q1, 50k on q2, 150k winning, 50k to q1 who lost, 100k to the funds.
want three people?
q1, q2, t1, that's 200k to your funds if you can 'guess' the next numbers accurately enough.
Ssaliss2010-10-16 15:12:57
I tested your theory of the numbers following 0 and 00 on my series of spins. If I understood you correctly, after you spin a 0, you should check the next number, and if it's red, bet on black, and if it's black, bet on red, and if the first is 00, you bet on the same color the next number is? With that tactic, I would've won 24 times and lost 36 (this is over approx. 1000 spins in total).
Unknown2010-10-16 15:21:58
The fact of the matter is, betting systems don't work, and any patterns you see are just coincidence.
Unknown2010-10-16 16:45:17
QUOTE (Zarquan @ Oct 16 2010, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How do you explain those times when five comes up four times in a row? What's the pattern there? biggrin.gif

I'm not convinced that these patterns you're finding truly exist. Your sample size seems to be on the small side. You forgot the standard YMMV disclaimer.


I have to agree wholly with this statement.

Falcon: Offer somewhere in the region of 100,000 (Maybe even a million) plays, and if any patterns emerge after this, you might be onto something. smile.gif
Unknown2010-10-16 16:47:53
QUOTE (Phoebus @ Oct 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The fact of the matter is, betting systems don't work, and any patterns you see are just coincidence.


This.
Ssaliss2010-10-16 17:41:19
I made a quick analyzer which took about 4000 spins, and checked them for any patterns regarding colors. These are the frequencies of the various three-length permutations of green, red and black. It does not, however, differentiate between 0 and 00.

GBR: 51
GRR: 47
GBB: 43
GRB: 39
GBG: 9
GRG: 5
GGR: 5
GGB: 2
GGG: 1
Unknown2010-10-18 06:43:48
We all know the correct way to gamble is to have deep, deep pockets.

Then, bet 1000 on black, if it comes up red, bet 2000, if it comes up red again, double it again. Ad infinitum.

Eventually, black will come up, and you'll win all your winnings back plus the initial 1000 you bet.

Slow, perhaps, but probabilistically, it's a guaranteed way to make money.
Rika2010-10-18 06:48:00
Or just hope to get real lucky with the first 50k you ever earn. :>
Unknown2010-10-18 06:51:31
QUOTE (Inky @ Oct 18 2010, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We all know the correct way to gamble is to have deep, deep pockets.

Then, bet 1000 on black, if it comes up red, bet 2000, if it comes up red again, double it again. Ad infinitum.

Eventually, black will come up, and you'll win all your winnings back plus the initial 1000 you bet.

Slow, perhaps, but probabilistically, it's a guaranteed way to make money.

That only works if you have infinite money. There's no guarantee you'll ever win, and eventually, if you keep doubling your money every time, you're going to run out.
Sakr2010-10-18 08:30:13
Or bet 2 gold until you imagine you see a pattern for that specific time, then go all out on the next bet. And rinse, repeat. When you get the middle numbers, I tend to back out. Hate those and greens with a passion... think glomdoring has about 1.5 million in donations from those two things.
Xenthos2010-10-18 15:15:31
QUOTE (Inky @ Oct 18 2010, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We all know the correct way to gamble is to have deep, deep pockets.

Then, bet 1000 on black, if it comes up red, bet 2000, if it comes up red again, double it again. Ad infinitum.

Eventually, black will come up, and you'll win all your winnings back plus the initial 1000 you bet.

Slow, perhaps, but probabilistically, it's a guaranteed way to make money.

There's actually a cap on the max bet you can place... so if the RNG really hates you, you're out of luck for that round.
Unknown2010-10-18 15:52:38
Doubling after each loss is the worst possible way to play roulette, too. Even if you end up winning, you're only actually up by the amount of that first bet.
Unknown2010-10-18 21:54:28
You could always just bet some gold on me. I will give you the best odds ever. 50/50. Either I will double your bet or give you nothing.

/sarcasm