I think anything that is part of the Glomdoring area, but not mechanically tainted environment, is basically assumed to be tainted anyway.

At least, I've never heard it argued that the swamps are a little piece of Serenwilde-environment inside Glomdoring.

Hmm really? I could have sworn I remember there being a red line at the top of the room descriptions whenever I wondered off spectre isle.. its been a while since I've left glomdoring however... any geomancers about?

Now THATS an odd quote comming from you. Did you inhabit Isune's body now? And why would anyone argue that there is serenwilde environment inside of Glomdoring? Its all glomdoring environment and the IC argument has always been that glomdoring is not tainted, you just think it is.

Daganev, it doesn't matter. In either case the taint was gone. End of story. The method doesn't matter.

Well, your argument is supposed on the idea that the admin deliberately left parts of Glomdoring untainted for a reason. I'm saying, I think that those areas are meant to be considered equally affected by the tainting of the forest, even if they don't have the word 'tainted' in their environment.

If not, then it is Serenwilde-type environment, the weaker version of Nature Glomdoring has always been opposed to, isn't it?

It matters if your dealing with illusions.

And I'm guessing the swamp and caves being untainted before were just building oversights.

All of those places are now 'wyrden' environment.

Agreed.

I'm glad to hear this wyrden thing could give Glomdoring a few more meldable areas too... just like the taint does for magnagora. Wyrden being an adjective that can cover multiple terrains.

I have never seen a "pretty swamp" before. Swamps tend to remind me of death and decay and nasty critters. Not something Glomdoring would view as being 'weak.' And in case you havn't noticed Glomdoring has never viewed the nature of Serenwilde as bad, just the actions of that commune and the mentality. If you read HELP VIRAVAIN you may notice that aspect.

Aye, Etanru. Messed around with them a bit earlier.

When they originally built the forest they just happened to not bother using 'tainted natural underground' and 'tainted swamp' rooms. With the Wyrd, they corrected it. It is highly unlikely there is any deeper meaning in this.

Considering they made a new environement type just for the Ebonguard guildhall, I doubt it was 'overlooked' Everything in glomdoring is now Wyrden, not everything was tainted before.

I'd dispute this, but what's the point?

This topic isn't about Daganev's theories. I'm sure you can write them all down IC and they can be dismissed IC as well.

In regards to the Wyrd thing, I'm hoping a few more tweaks get made... though I think that was hinted at already.

Christ, Dag, you're impossible to argue with. Maybe they built Glomdoring before they even had 'tainted natural underground'? Actually, is there even such a thing? I'm pretty sure Acknor is tainted constructed underground. I know there's no such thing as 'tainted swamp' terrain.

Sure they made a new type for the guildhall, that's nice and nifty, but so what? I doubt they anticipated people disecting every square inch of their design, not to mention that the people involved in building were likely, for the most part, different than the ones putting together the plots.

Heh, I did write them down IC, and all I got was compliments so far. But thats besides the point.

As for comments about oversights.. I believe there is -one- room in the entire basin that is "tainted garden" and its the only garden room in Magnagora. They seemed to have be very detailed about those things. I even think there are a few "tainted underground urban" spots or something like that.

Saying it was an 'oversight' sounds like a copout argument to me.

Could be the builders assigned to Magnagora had a better eye for detail than those in Glomdoring. Really, it's so trivial, why are we even discussing this.

Bleegharphage.

So, would any Blacktalon be kind enough to post the new message they see when infesting (or wyrding, or whatever)? I'm about to ask in game, but I doubt much will come of it.

And I can't spy anymore.

Eh? Why not?

You've got too good a guardian.

I muttered some things, one of which contained the word 'taint', and she flung me into the mountains.