Unknown2005-11-17 23:22:11
Here are the Stat's of a Loboshigaru (so that we are all working on the same page)
14 Strength
15 Dexterity
16 Constitution
10 Intelligence
11 Charisma
13 Size
Adv.
level 3 Health regeneration.
level 1 Resistance to fire.
level 1 Resistance to cold.
level 1 Resistance to poison damage.
Disadv.
level 2 Susceptible to magic.
So, every time I talk to someone about becoming a warrior, all I hear is...Alsarian, Taurian, Tae'dae, Igasho!!! STR! STR!
A lobo has that lvl. 3 health REGEN., good dexterity (compared to a tae'dae's 8, Igasho's 9, Taurian's 12) But obviously less STR and CON...
Is a Lobo warrior a good option because of it's REGEN? I don't mean, "Will it be easy?" since it seems that most any race could be a decent warrior if the person is willing to work at it.
A Ebonguard Lobo would seem like the best, both with the stat-boosts of Totems and Nightkiss, since I'd go Night....and with that extra DEX, what would be the best Knighthood specialization?
Sorry for the long-winded question
14 Strength
15 Dexterity
16 Constitution
10 Intelligence
11 Charisma
13 Size
Adv.
level 3 Health regeneration.
level 1 Resistance to fire.
level 1 Resistance to cold.
level 1 Resistance to poison damage.
Disadv.
level 2 Susceptible to magic.
So, every time I talk to someone about becoming a warrior, all I hear is...Alsarian, Taurian, Tae'dae, Igasho!!! STR! STR!
A lobo has that lvl. 3 health REGEN., good dexterity (compared to a tae'dae's 8, Igasho's 9, Taurian's 12) But obviously less STR and CON...
Is a Lobo warrior a good option because of it's REGEN? I don't mean, "Will it be easy?" since it seems that most any race could be a decent warrior if the person is willing to work at it.
A Ebonguard Lobo would seem like the best, both with the stat-boosts of Totems and Nightkiss, since I'd go Night....and with that extra DEX, what would be the best Knighthood specialization?
Sorry for the long-winded question
Cwin2005-11-17 23:35:14
Blah to regen first off. It's a nice addition but, as a human, I'm happy enough with Mercy + Athletics.
Now, the big Str folks will out do you with damage, but you'll make use of your wounding afflictions better. You'll also suffer ALOT less to being webbed (especialy with a diminish enchantment).
Aslaran's are loved, meanwhile, for their dex and Balance advantage, and thus they'll be faster in attacks than you. However, their Str is...meh (I can't wait till I get more Str myself: 12 isn't fun to work with).
So Lobos.. Yah, they'd make a great wounding warrior I think: one of those folks that make you choose between drinking health or healing that gut that's near Critical. Due to that, I'd say 1 handed weapons: blademaster with scimitars perhaps, if you can make one with a decent speed. Either that or bonecrusher (don't know them so I can't judge).
But again, Lobo should make a good warrior.
Now, the big Str folks will out do you with damage, but you'll make use of your wounding afflictions better. You'll also suffer ALOT less to being webbed (especialy with a diminish enchantment).
Aslaran's are loved, meanwhile, for their dex and Balance advantage, and thus they'll be faster in attacks than you. However, their Str is...meh (I can't wait till I get more Str myself: 12 isn't fun to work with).
So Lobos.. Yah, they'd make a great wounding warrior I think: one of those folks that make you choose between drinking health or healing that gut that's near Critical. Due to that, I'd say 1 handed weapons: blademaster with scimitars perhaps, if you can make one with a decent speed. Either that or bonecrusher (don't know them so I can't judge).
But again, Lobo should make a good warrior.
Daganev2005-11-18 01:15:02
The latest Loboshigaru Ebonguard that I know of chose Pureblade.
Murphy2005-11-18 01:19:25
a wounding warrior can be just about any race, all you need is skill.
a race with 16 or more str will often require you to make crucial decisions on every sip/health application. I know against me, if someone misses even 1 or 2 health applications i've got them and its very hard to get out of. Lobo's aren't bad with the regen, but their magic resistance blows and there are better races out there
a race with 16 or more str will often require you to make crucial decisions on every sip/health application. I know against me, if someone misses even 1 or 2 health applications i've got them and its very hard to get out of. Lobo's aren't bad with the regen, but their magic resistance blows and there are better races out there
Unknown2005-11-18 16:39:40
Or think about a Lobo ur'Guard. Almost no health drain from Puterfaction because of the racial regen?
That sounds like it could work...and it would help make up for the damage resistances Lobo's don't have that other "warrior" races do
That sounds like it could work...and it would help make up for the damage resistances Lobo's don't have that other "warrior" races do
Jack2005-11-18 16:40:12
Perfect warrior race, imo:
Descended from the Elder God Krokano, the krokani are very large,
one-eyed giants. Despite their enormous size (indeed, their height is
second only to igasho), they can be surprisingly dexterous.
Unfortunately, they are not an extremely intelligent race and have been
known to be unwittingly used by others as shock troops or first line
defense in war time. Added to the fact that they are not a very fertile
race, the krokani are becoming rarer and rarer to find in Lusternia.
STATISTICS:
Strength : 16 Dexterity : 15 Constitution: 15
Intelligence: 8 Charisma : 10 Size : 16
ADVANTAGES:
o Have racial language, krokanian.
o Increased chance of seeing through illusions.
o Have a level 2 resistance to blunt damage.
o Have a level 3 resistance to magic.
o Native Weapon: Krokani warriors who choose the Bonecrusher
specialization can use one-handed bludgeon weapons more accurately
than other races.
DISADVANTAGES:
o Have a level 1 susceptability to electric damage..
o Have a level 1 susceptability to cutting damage.
No balance/eq issues, good strength, dex and con, good resistances, relatively weak disadvantages. Just shite int for surge.
Descended from the Elder God Krokano, the krokani are very large,
one-eyed giants. Despite their enormous size (indeed, their height is
second only to igasho), they can be surprisingly dexterous.
Unfortunately, they are not an extremely intelligent race and have been
known to be unwittingly used by others as shock troops or first line
defense in war time. Added to the fact that they are not a very fertile
race, the krokani are becoming rarer and rarer to find in Lusternia.
STATISTICS:
Strength : 16 Dexterity : 15 Constitution: 15
Intelligence: 8 Charisma : 10 Size : 16
ADVANTAGES:
o Have racial language, krokanian.
o Increased chance of seeing through illusions.
o Have a level 2 resistance to blunt damage.
o Have a level 3 resistance to magic.
o Native Weapon: Krokani warriors who choose the Bonecrusher
specialization can use one-handed bludgeon weapons more accurately
than other races.
DISADVANTAGES:
o Have a level 1 susceptability to electric damage..
o Have a level 1 susceptability to cutting damage.
No balance/eq issues, good strength, dex and con, good resistances, relatively weak disadvantages. Just shite int for surge.
Manjanaia2005-11-18 16:43:51
They'd be pretty susceptible to guardians/wiccans though wouldn't they?
Daganev2005-11-18 18:47:07
Only an idiot surges when fighting a guardian or a wiccan.
Unknown2005-11-18 21:23:12
With mana drainers as they are now, not that susceptible at all.
Cwin2005-11-18 22:00:10
The size though has to hurt BAD. I know size 9 (human + diminish) just bearly makes webbing tolerable. I guess there are those skills that remove the binds but can you rely on that?
Daganev2005-11-18 22:03:08
*shrug* writhe time has never been an issue for me.
Unknown2005-11-18 22:44:27
QUOTE(Cwin @ Nov 19 2005, 12:00 AM)
The size though has to hurt BAD. I know size 9 (human + diminish) just bearly makes webbing tolerable. I guess there are those skills that remove the binds but can you rely on that?
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You can, sort of. Have to be on balance/equilibrium to use it, takes eq for a while, not too long. Should be faster than big sized races writhe. And you are not considered entangled as soon as you use it, which sucks for nihilists. As a lot of other things.
Sylphas2005-11-19 01:53:23
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 17 2005, 09:15 PM)
The latest Loboshigaru Ebonguard that I know of chose Pureblade.
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Mine's going Blademaster. Though I barely play him, he won't be out of novicehood for like, weeks and weeks.
Cwin2005-11-19 02:35:34
QUOTE(Kashim @ Nov 18 2005, 06:44 PM)
You can, sort of. Have to be on balance/equilibrium to use it, takes eq for a while, not too long. Should be faster than big sized races writhe. And you are not considered entangled as soon as you use it, which sucks for nihilists. As a lot of other things.
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Then blah. Perhaps I should've been a one-eyed Jill. I left a few RP loopholes open for a race change but there's no way I can explain a human to Krokani switch. Oh well. I'd miss the Exp bonus anyway
Narsrim2005-11-19 02:50:52
Every race/class combination has a weakness to exploit. That's not what I'd focus on. I'd focus on if you have a means to handle said weakness. For example, let's just look at Loboshigaru versus Krokani, which were brought up in this thread:
Loboshigaru has a magic weakness (moonburst, nature curse) and low intelligence (weakness to absolve, wrack, toadcurse) and bleeding (Munsia has taken down lots of warriors by getting them over 1k bleeding, which they cannot possibly clot with the low mana and they slowly die). The low intelligence also translates into crap health at higher levels because most warriors will eventually have enough mana that they can surge still keep over 3k mana. That's going to be tough for a Loboshigaru. Loboshigaru also have relatively useless bonuses other than the level 3 health regen.
Krokani have no major weakness other than low intelligence (same as above). Unlike the Loboshigaru, however, they have better bonuses (and I've heard the see-through-illusions bonus is amazing against mages).
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As far as I'm concerned, the Loboshigaru has more holes you can exploit than a Krokani. This makes it an inferior race in my opinion. You could make it work, yes... but the Krokani will always work better.
Loboshigaru has a magic weakness (moonburst, nature curse) and low intelligence (weakness to absolve, wrack, toadcurse) and bleeding (Munsia has taken down lots of warriors by getting them over 1k bleeding, which they cannot possibly clot with the low mana and they slowly die). The low intelligence also translates into crap health at higher levels because most warriors will eventually have enough mana that they can surge still keep over 3k mana. That's going to be tough for a Loboshigaru. Loboshigaru also have relatively useless bonuses other than the level 3 health regen.
Krokani have no major weakness other than low intelligence (same as above). Unlike the Loboshigaru, however, they have better bonuses (and I've heard the see-through-illusions bonus is amazing against mages).
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As far as I'm concerned, the Loboshigaru has more holes you can exploit than a Krokani. This makes it an inferior race in my opinion. You could make it work, yes... but the Krokani will always work better.
Murphy2005-11-19 05:50:22
QUOTE(Aurendrosl @ Nov 19 2005, 02:39 AM)
Or think about a Lobo ur'Guard. Almost no health drain from Puterfaction because of the racial regen?
That sounds like it could work...and it would help make up for the damage resistances Lobo's don't have that other "warrior" races do
That sounds like it could work...and it would help make up for the damage resistances Lobo's don't have that other "warrior" races do
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an orclach (lvl 2 racial regen) can keep up putrefaction with just a mercy enchantment, surged or unsurged, I bet a taurian could keep it up enough to not have to worry too much about it.
Exarius2005-11-19 06:28:25
QUOTE(daganev @ Nov 18 2005, 01:47 PM)
Only an idiot surges when fighting a guardian or a wiccan.
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As Bob is my witless, I am that idiot!
Ekard2005-11-19 10:29:22
Best race for warrior IMHO
The human race is the only race not native to Lusternia and arrived with
the coming of Estarra. They proved to be a most fertile people, able to
interbreed with the other races. Because of this, humans range in all
shapes, sizes and colours. Humans are the only race who make distinctions
between themselves based upon appearance, dividing themselves as "old
humans" meaning those with the original skin colour of their race (though
ranging from lily white to chocolate brown) to "half breeds" who have
skin tones of the native Lusternian races (such as the blue skin of the
merians or green skin of the dracnari or even the bright red skin of the
viscanti).
STATISTICS:
Strength : 15 Dexterity : 14 Constitution : 15
Intelligence : 13 Size : 12 Charisma : 12
ADVANTAGES:
o Gain experience more quickly, level 2.
o Evolution: On level 95th, humans get one more point in dexterity.
The human race is the only race not native to Lusternia and arrived with
the coming of Estarra. They proved to be a most fertile people, able to
interbreed with the other races. Because of this, humans range in all
shapes, sizes and colours. Humans are the only race who make distinctions
between themselves based upon appearance, dividing themselves as "old
humans" meaning those with the original skin colour of their race (though
ranging from lily white to chocolate brown) to "half breeds" who have
skin tones of the native Lusternian races (such as the blue skin of the
merians or green skin of the dracnari or even the bright red skin of the
viscanti).
STATISTICS:
Strength : 15 Dexterity : 14 Constitution : 15
Intelligence : 13 Size : 12 Charisma : 12
ADVANTAGES:
o Gain experience more quickly, level 2.
o Evolution: On level 95th, humans get one more point in dexterity.
Soll2005-11-19 11:02:22
When you hit Demigod, and thus have no more need for experience, do experience bonuses such as racial, harmony, autumn, harvest give a bonus to essence gain?
Ekard2005-11-19 11:08:32
I have no idea but i hope so, i cant get 100cr for another dagger.