Really? Faelings don't have a shard? Bah. That's more fodder for the reincarnate fire. C'mon..say it isn't so. I'm going to ask Her when I get on Lust later today.

Miss Viravain, Ma'am. Do I have a soul? -puppywhimper-

And then I'll get destroyed for being too fluffy.

Yeah, we have souls. Remember, we're part Fae, part spirits of Nature. I haven't heard anyone go calling the Fae Soulless yet. We just don't have the Divine Shard from our creator.

Same difference. What's the use of having a soul if I have no shard? -wail-

Let's break the Seal of Nature and give ourselves some Kiakoda Shards. Woowoo. Who cares if Kethuru comes out, Viravain can make a Seal of Wyrd and lock him in, and then Avechna will be part Glom. And Step Two in Glom-Will-Rule-The-World will be complete.

Sounds like a plan!

So then Faelings have spirits.... does that mean that essentially all the faelings in glomdoring are owned by Viravain?

Someone explain to me about humans, Viscanti, and Faelings, then? What are their shards from? No demigod humans/viscanti/faeling?

There is nothing in the website and help files that says Faelings do not have a shard.



Elfen have a shard - and if you are a cross, I would suggest just like how blood is diluted you have a watered down shard.

See, that's what I thought--Except that it doesn't get diluted, it's fully fledged but it just carries over to faelings too. But Xenthos said that Viravain told Shikari in game that they didn't, or told him something that made it sound like that--And we all know Viravain is always right -Glom Fanatic Mode: On- So I wonder. But up until now, I thought like this: Faelings have Elfen Shard, Viscanti have the shard of whichever race their ancestors were pre-taint. And that even while Viscanti are now their own race, they have one of the other racial shards. That can probably be told by what racial features dominate them. Crystal Skinned Viscanti, Fair Elfen-like Viscanti, etc etc.

And as for Humans--I always considered them Of the Essence of the Unnamed Son. He didn't really splinter or anything, so much as got dispersed on the other side of the thing.

Soul =/= Shard

I imagine Humans will be unable to become Vernal Gods, at least if the Divine stick to their current stories.

But then what's the point really? Anyone who was human and wanted to gain the benefits of max level would have to reincarnate to a different race before ascension, which is pretty serious metagaming.

Honestly, I just kind of wish we could get more variety in ascension. Variety is good! Different is better! /rant

Anyway...I agree with the general consensus on this one. Faelings likely have Elfen shards in them, if anything. Humans I just dunno and won't until a Divine comments on that. But then, I'm still pretty unclear on certain aspects of the histories (such as just where exactly the humans were before they were brought here).

Leave Kiakoda alone she's ours! Go bother Murphy for Urlach shards!

Urlach's shard is in my flail, you can't have it

Break his flail!

EDekar, I highly doubt level will be a factor for who can become a Vernal God, or only a minor one if it is. Vernal will not just be a step up from Demigods, even more PWNage at combat; they will be much more like Elder Gods, not participating often in mortal affairs directly and instead focusing on broader and more important goals, not to mention fighting the Soulless.

My mistake, still learning the terminology. Was thinking Vernal God = Demigod for some reason, though I figured that was probably wrong. So many tiers of godhood. ::sighs::

Anyway, who knows? It's all speculation and conjecture until a Divine tells us what's what, really. Even if level doesn't have much to do with it, they're not going to give the position to someone who can't defend their position. Kind of feels like a vicious circle. Most likely, the one(s) who ascends to Vernal God will be skilled in PvP and known to be capable of roleplay.

I even know who I'd nominate right at the moment, of about two people give or take. But I'm not telling who.

Who cares about Vernal... Ascended God is where all the fun is.

I don't think shards are souls or spirits. I would imagine Faelings/Humans/Viscanti still have a spark of divinity inside them, but it just isn't the shard of a fragmented Elder God.

Faelings are half-spirit and half-mortal, so I'd imagine they have a small spark of divinity from their elfen parent, but the majority of their soul/spirit/essence derived from the nature spirits. I would postulate this means they are far more limited and bound to the world than the shard races, while those others have more unlimited potential as they are borne directly from Divinity. Both Viscanti and Faeling are bound to their environment very strongly, at least.

I mean, if the Taint 'won' or all the forests were destroyed, I imagine that Faelings (well, regular faelings) would be incapable of surviving without the Fae and nature that currently exists. Similarly, if the Taint was ever wiped out from the lands of the Basin I imagine Viscanti would have great difficulty surviving. Most of the other races could adapt relatively well, having divine shards. I imagine even Elfen could live outside the forests, they just won't be as happy.

So basically no one knows for sure how faelings came about and continue to emerge? Do the Gods have anything in mind or is it still in the works?

Thats a silly theory. Faelings exist in cities.

Being a member of a city gives you an intrisinc link to the type of spiritual life and power, thats how power works, and why your power instantly changes when your no longer directly connected to that nexus. Thats why you can't summon fae if your not linked to a commune. So if a faeling can exist in a city, a faeling can exist when nature is destroyed. Its a race now, they are no longer fae. Same with viscanti, they can exist in Celest which is devoid of taint. A new race is a new race.


The first faelings where a mix between an elf and a fae, Just as the first shadow faelings where a mix between an undead elf and a fae. After that orignial faeling was born, they became thier own race and can procreate with eachother.

Faeling exist in cities, and Viscanti outside of the taint, but I imagine it isn't too pleasant for them. Their natural regeneration as well as their history points to the fact that they are much more comfortable and such in their natural environment; they certainly don't need it, but it would be a difficult thing to adjust to. Just like when someone moves to an area with a very different climate from what they've lived in their whole life.