Narsrim2005-11-28 18:32:24
Japanese is fun - initially. Advanced Japanese grammar is just annoying.
Viravain2005-11-28 20:36:46
QUOTE(Aiwendil @ Nov 28 2005, 06:46 AM)
You ought to put the sounds (1-4) on that, as practice. Wo dong hua yi, shuo yi hui dong ni zai jiang shi mo. Hmm, I didn't do it either. Dui bu qi. Zian zhi, wo de hua yi shi... hen cha. Ni jue hao hai shi bu yao wen wo. Dan shi, ru guo ni yao wo de bang mang, wo hai shi hui bang ni.
Ask me to translate that if you don't know what I said.
Ask me to translate that if you don't know what I said.
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Tamen bu dong - Qing zai shuo yi ci, shuo Yingguohua. Ye, ni shi Zhongguoren ma? Haishi ni shi bu Zhongguoren keshi shi xuesheng ma? Haishi dou? Duibuqi, keshi wo de yufa tai bu hao le! Wo dei duo lianxi, .
tsaephai2005-11-28 21:18:09
QUOTE(Aiwendil @ Nov 28 2005, 06:46 AM)
You ought to put the sounds (1-4) on that, as practice. Wo dong hua yi, shuo yi hui dong ni zai jiang shi mo. Hmm, I didn't do it either. Dui bu qi. Zian zhi, wo de hua yi shi... hen cha. Ni jue hao hai shi bu yao wen wo. Dan shi, ru guo ni yao wo de bang mang, wo hai shi hui bang ni.
Ask me to translate that if you don't know what I said.
Ask me to translate that if you don't know what I said.
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hmm, i'll try translating(parenthesis are my notes):
i understand chinese decent(that didn't make sense to me), speak once understanding you spirited is not.
(i think that means "i'm of chinese decent, and you don't write good chinese")
sorry. (something) to go, i give words one is...to hate tea. you many good still not language i. but it is, if you have to i give help, i still am return help you.
yup, you see how bad i speak chinese? well, only started learning about three weeks ago, so i think i'm doing pretty good for now, but i think i've got english and spanish fairly well, and chinese seems to be easier to learn than those two were. sorry for my extremely bad chinese, then.
Suhnaye2005-11-28 22:15:04
Its acctually fairly easy to learn how to write or read new languages now days... Or at least to translate languages... Much harder to learn the grammar and speak it propperly... Reading something you can read it over a dozen times untill it seems to fit right. But go to a place where everyone speaks a different language than you and its rough to understand anything anyone says... Spoken words usually sound a good bit different from person to person, so a foriegn person new to the language is really outa their element.
I've tried learning Japanese and Chinese (Chinese only lately)... Not too good with either of them, though I think thats mostly because I get confused way too easily with unfamiliar things and then get flustered and then give up...
I've tried learning Japanese and Chinese (Chinese only lately)... Not too good with either of them, though I think thats mostly because I get confused way too easily with unfamiliar things and then get flustered and then give up...
Simimi2005-11-28 23:02:15
So many people speak Chinese wow! I'm still learning Chinese (Lady Viravain is impressive... be my Laoxi ma?)
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
Narsrim2005-11-28 23:05:13
Everyone knows Japanese is the best language is the world, but Thai is the best type of food. Get it straight.
Simimi2005-11-28 23:06:34
No Japanese is for foreigners with yellow fevor and lolicon.. (JOKE)
Thai has the best food..and women.. and language... and boys... and katoey...
Hey Nars..
Google for 'Katoey' and turn off moderate safe search...
*snickers evilly* ^_~
Thai has the best food..and women.. and language... and boys... and katoey...
Hey Nars..
Google for 'Katoey' and turn off moderate safe search...
*snickers evilly* ^_~
tsaephai2005-11-28 23:08:02
QUOTE(Simimi @ Nov 28 2005, 06:02 PM)
So many people speak Chinese wow! I'm still learning Chinese (Lady Viravain is impressive... be my Laoxi ma?)
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
 And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
 And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
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ooh! can you tell us some thai?
i tried to learn it once(or was it khmer?) and couldn't get past the alphabet, too complex. 6 tone symbols!? and to me they all look the same...
Simimi2005-11-28 23:10:10
Thai and khmer are so close, in north east thai they speak Isaan which is a mix of thai,laos,khmer,and bali it is so pretty!
Sure what do you want to know, message me or Im me or message me ingame or send tells or something, I love to talk to people.
Now to go learn Tagalog.. O.o
What language do you speak natively Tsaephai? Is it Bali?
--Thai--
"I love you"
From a boy- "Phom ruk ter" (Ter is polite form of koon, which means you)
From a girl-"Chan ruk ter"
--Random Thainess--
Nawn lap fun dee- "Sleep well and have a god dream, it is how we say goonight"
Sure what do you want to know, message me or Im me or message me ingame or send tells or something, I love to talk to people.
Now to go learn Tagalog.. O.o
What language do you speak natively Tsaephai? Is it Bali?
--Thai--
"I love you"
From a boy- "Phom ruk ter" (Ter is polite form of koon, which means you)
From a girl-"Chan ruk ter"
--Random Thainess--
Nawn lap fun dee- "Sleep well and have a god dream, it is how we say goonight"
Narsrim2005-11-28 23:14:07
Katoey
That was interesting... although I'm one of those fags who delights in being masculine so totally not my style, but to each his/her own.
That was interesting... although I'm one of those fags who delights in being masculine so totally not my style, but to each his/her own.
Simimi2005-11-28 23:15:39
Awww you ruined the shock value of the google images... your just no fun...wait till you stumble onto a sexy Katoey who swings more pipe than you... that will scare many a foreigner into a mental hospital...
Narsrim2005-11-28 23:20:13
Japanese fun:
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Ni wa ni wa ni wa to arimasu!
There are two birds in the garden!
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Ni wa ni wa ni wa to arimasu!
There are two birds in the garden!
Viravain2005-11-28 23:52:26
QUOTE(Simimi @ Nov 28 2005, 06:02 PM)
So many people speak Chinese wow! I'm still learning Chinese (Lady Viravain is impressive... be my Laoxi ma?)
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
 And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
Seriously though Munsihun, penpalworld is the best, I used it for a while and now I just send mail to HKSAR alot to my number on Penpal and Chinese teacher...
 And bah to you all, everyone knows Thai is the best language in the world
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Duibuqi, wo shi bu Laoshi, wo shi xuesheng ye.
As for Japanese, eh - It's relatively easy to learn how to speak, writing it is another story. It's easier than chinese, for sure, not being a tone language. It used to be fun to try and learn Japanese on my own, and I had considered taking it more seriously in a class. But now, I see all these scary Otaku-ish anime freaks walking into the classroom wearing cat ears and Naruto headbands or Dragonball shirts, and I'm so glad I didn't. The teacher looks grumpy about it, especially when they keep saying the same 'Datta yo' and 'Baka' and 'Kamehameha!' phrases when he's trying to teach.
But wait, the truth is now revealed! Narsrim is an anime freak...wether it is tentacles or not that attracts him, the Haven does not want to know.
Ashteru2005-11-28 23:55:29
QUOTE(Viravain @ Nov 28 2005, 11:52 PM)
But wait, the truth is now revealed! Narsrim is an anime freak...wether it is tentacles or not that attracts him, the Haven does not want to know.
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Who isn't attracted by th....I mean, I'll go over there in the corner and be silent.
Narsrim2005-11-29 01:43:45
Japanese is actually very difficult to learn how to speak in my opinion. When almost ANYTHING is assumed as understood in Japanese, it may be left out of the conversation. It becomes very tricky.
Conversational Japanese is also very bleh to learn because all of the verbs change form (in a very non-systematic way unlike when writing because everything is highly systematic).
And like Chinese, Japanese has HUGE dialect variations. Unlike English, these reach extreme points.
For example, we all know what "sushi" is. In one dialect, anything that begins with "su" is changed to "shi" (I believe this is in Northern Japan). As a result, "sushi" is now "shishi." This irks the crap out of me.
Conversational Japanese is also very bleh to learn because all of the verbs change form (in a very non-systematic way unlike when writing because everything is highly systematic).
And like Chinese, Japanese has HUGE dialect variations. Unlike English, these reach extreme points.
For example, we all know what "sushi" is. In one dialect, anything that begins with "su" is changed to "shi" (I believe this is in Northern Japan). As a result, "sushi" is now "shishi." This irks the crap out of me.
Simimi2005-11-29 01:49:35
Wow... the main differences in Thai dialect are kind of like that..see its like this
What you all think of as "The Official Thai Language" is "Central Thai Dialect". Everyone in the country speaks thai, ie central thai, some also speak north thai or isan or south thai...
To show you what it is like...
"Its not a problem, do not worry about it, it can't be helped"-In Isan, Thai, North and South Thai
Thai- Mai Bpen Rai
Isan- Bpor Bpen Young Dok
North Thai- Npor Bpen Young Jaew
South Thai- Mai Bpen Arai
The dialects are not mutually intelligable.. if someone was speaking North Thai I would be like.. "what the Nil?"
What you all think of as "The Official Thai Language" is "Central Thai Dialect". Everyone in the country speaks thai, ie central thai, some also speak north thai or isan or south thai...
To show you what it is like...
"Its not a problem, do not worry about it, it can't be helped"-In Isan, Thai, North and South Thai
Thai- Mai Bpen Rai
Isan- Bpor Bpen Young Dok
North Thai- Npor Bpen Young Jaew
South Thai- Mai Bpen Arai
The dialects are not mutually intelligable.. if someone was speaking North Thai I would be like.. "what the Nil?"
Munsia2005-11-29 06:57:31
freaks....
Unknown2005-11-29 07:00:49
Well.. did you sign up?
Iridiel2005-11-29 10:04:59
Well, I have trouble understanding people from other places of spain, specially when they get together and accent gets the worse of them.
But that's nothing compared to south american spanish. We have so many different words (or the same word has totally different meanings) that it gives place to some fun misunderstandings (specially since that happens a lot with dirty words). Curiously enough, we're supposed to be the standard spanish (Spain), even if it's the one with less speakers
But that's nothing compared to south american spanish. We have so many different words (or the same word has totally different meanings) that it gives place to some fun misunderstandings (specially since that happens a lot with dirty words). Curiously enough, we're supposed to be the standard spanish (Spain), even if it's the one with less speakers
Aiwendil2005-11-29 10:36:16
What I said: "I understand Chinese, so I know what you are saying. Sorry. (for Hmm, I didn't do it either) Anyway, my Chinese is... very poor. You had better not ask me. However, if you want my help, I will still help you."
Viravain: "They don't understand - Please say it again, in English. Are you Chinese (as in, Chinese from China aka Chinaman). Or are you not a Chinese but are a student?"
I didn't understand the last line she said, except it was about being sorry for having lousy Chinese (along those lines) and needed to practise more.
At the moment, tsaephai's Chinese (or Mandarin to be more formal) is MUCH better than Viravain's (OMG I just insulted a Divine! *hides*). For example, Viravain messed up the order of some words (is that under "grammar"?). She got some vocab wrong as well.
eg. "Ni dei duo lianxi!", which I guess is supposed to mean "you ought to practise more", should be "Ni gai duo lian xi".
eg2. "Duibuqi, wo shi bu Laoshi, wo shi xuesheng ye." Literal translation, "*garbled*, I am no *garbled*, I am student also." I guess she wanted it to mean, "Sorry, I am not a teacher, I am also a student." It should have been written as, "Dui bu qi, wo bu shi lao shi, wo ye shi xue sheng." Note that when trying to turn "am" into "am not", you put "bu" (no) in front of "shi" (yes). "Ye" (also) should be straight after "wo" (I).
eg3. You're not supposed to join any of the words together. Like "Yingguohua", which should be "Ying guo hua", three seperate words for three seperate sounds. She intended it to mean "English", but the literal translation is "language of England". She could have used "ying wen", which sounds more casual (and less sniding).
In answer to Viravain's questions: I'm not from China. I'm Singaporean Chinese. That means, I'm a Chinese from Singapore, which is not in China, South America, the Bermuda Triangle or wherever some people think it's located. There's a place called Singapore in America I think, but it's not a prominent place. I saw it in the newspaper years back. I could cough up a whole lot of links about Singapore if you want to know more about it.
Viravain: "They don't understand - Please say it again, in English. Are you Chinese (as in, Chinese from China aka Chinaman). Or are you not a Chinese but are a student?"
I didn't understand the last line she said, except it was about being sorry for having lousy Chinese (along those lines) and needed to practise more.
At the moment, tsaephai's Chinese (or Mandarin to be more formal) is MUCH better than Viravain's (OMG I just insulted a Divine! *hides*). For example, Viravain messed up the order of some words (is that under "grammar"?). She got some vocab wrong as well.
eg. "Ni dei duo lianxi!", which I guess is supposed to mean "you ought to practise more", should be "Ni gai duo lian xi".
eg2. "Duibuqi, wo shi bu Laoshi, wo shi xuesheng ye." Literal translation, "*garbled*, I am no *garbled*, I am student also." I guess she wanted it to mean, "Sorry, I am not a teacher, I am also a student." It should have been written as, "Dui bu qi, wo bu shi lao shi, wo ye shi xue sheng." Note that when trying to turn "am" into "am not", you put "bu" (no) in front of "shi" (yes). "Ye" (also) should be straight after "wo" (I).
eg3. You're not supposed to join any of the words together. Like "Yingguohua", which should be "Ying guo hua", three seperate words for three seperate sounds. She intended it to mean "English", but the literal translation is "language of England". She could have used "ying wen", which sounds more casual (and less sniding).
In answer to Viravain's questions: I'm not from China. I'm Singaporean Chinese. That means, I'm a Chinese from Singapore, which is not in China, South America, the Bermuda Triangle or wherever some people think it's located. There's a place called Singapore in America I think, but it's not a prominent place. I saw it in the newspaper years back. I could cough up a whole lot of links about Singapore if you want to know more about it.