Unknown2005-12-19 01:01:43
I'm going to agree with Avaer here. After all, without the 'run of the mill' factory workers who simply adhere to their role in life, and don't really need to go above and beyond for the sake of illusionary superiority, none of us would have the computers we're all so addicted to
Peeka2005-12-19 02:06:35
I agree too. Once people try to be "special" they run the risk of becoming a twink or marysue/garystu.
I think excellent RP has more to do with depth of character, consistency with the theme of the world, creativity and detail of expression.
I think excellent RP has more to do with depth of character, consistency with the theme of the world, creativity and detail of expression.
Verithrax2005-12-19 04:02:01
QUOTE(Avaer @ Dec 18 2005, 09:50 PM)
Ialie is quite right, and I disagree with your classification. Playing characters with strange motivations is not superior in any way to those who play characters that follow meaningful motivations.
In a world that is rife with as much contrast as Lusternia, it is not poor RP to take up the role that makes sense for your race, guild or nation. If everyone decided to throw away the 'boring' roles that were provided, and run with some fantastic, unusual RP... we would lose most of the beautiful structure and meaning that underlies this world. That a few people choose to play different roles for whatever reason is great, but it does not make them any better than those who don't need to go with outlandish, breakaway roles in order to develop their story.
In a world that is rife with as much contrast as Lusternia, it is not poor RP to take up the role that makes sense for your race, guild or nation. If everyone decided to throw away the 'boring' roles that were provided, and run with some fantastic, unusual RP... we would lose most of the beautiful structure and meaning that underlies this world. That a few people choose to play different roles for whatever reason is great, but it does not make them any better than those who don't need to go with outlandish, breakaway roles in order to develop their story.
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I think you got me wrong there. I dindn't mean that interesting RP necessarily means going against your org, etc. I just said that most players who create simple characters and don't throw a lot of time and effort into roleplaying and developing a character will roleplay according to their org and race - Because it's easier. Most people who do create interesting, deep characters will do that too, but the proportion is a tad smaller. Nearly everyone who goes against the majority in some way is roleplaying a more complex character than the standard-issue Ur'Guard/Paladin/whatever.
And yes, talking about 'good' roleplay is a bit odd; roleplaying small things and being common is good roleplay too. However, we're not roleplaying common people. Player characters in Lusternia are heros; exceptional people. You don't expect someone who wears a set of enchanted robes, carries a big, stupidly enchanted stick around, and throws boulders at people without moving a finger is going to act, talk, and think like a run-of-the-mill farmer. And even common people are different; our characters are no exception. Characters that have a distinct personality (Are they cowardly or brave? Smart or stupid? Cautious or reckless? Rational or emotional?) are good enough to classify as interesting ones, even if they don't stand out from the crowd. The key to good roleplaying is depth; your character doesn't have to be superficially noticeable, but he should have a distinct personality. Richter's been listed several times in this thread even though he plays a very subtle role; so did Murphy, who isn't very different from any other Ur'Guard. And I agree, they're good roleplayers.
Unknown2005-12-19 06:29:50
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Dec 19 2005, 04:02 AM)
Nearly everyone who goes against the majority in some way is roleplaying a more complex character than the standard-issue Ur'Guard/Paladin/whatever.
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I would still dispute that quite a bit, but please don't think I'm referring to Verithrax, I'm not. It is my general experience though that a greater majority of those who play against their organizational stance have shoddily constructed motivations, than those who go along with it.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
Joli2005-12-19 08:11:13
Some of the better ones are:
Isune.. She's awesome. When she first came back Joli gave her a bunny cake and she freaked out, thinking I was trying to get her to eat a live bunny. Lots of little things that have gone on between me and her. I like to gossip with her about lots of things, but I haven't seen her around lately.
Elcyrion.. Of course. I don't think I really need to say why. He's just awesome in his awesomeness and it doesn't need defending.
Xenthos.. Because he roleplayed me teaching him how to dance properly. He's the cutest most adorable fae in the world.. to Joli at least.
I always thought Erion's characters were really good, even if they did cause a huge amount of chaos.
Isune.. She's awesome. When she first came back Joli gave her a bunny cake and she freaked out, thinking I was trying to get her to eat a live bunny. Lots of little things that have gone on between me and her. I like to gossip with her about lots of things, but I haven't seen her around lately.
Elcyrion.. Of course. I don't think I really need to say why. He's just awesome in his awesomeness and it doesn't need defending.
Xenthos.. Because he roleplayed me teaching him how to dance properly. He's the cutest most adorable fae in the world.. to Joli at least.
I always thought Erion's characters were really good, even if they did cause a huge amount of chaos.
Verithrax2005-12-19 08:32:27
QUOTE(Joli @ Dec 19 2005, 05:11 AM)
Some of the better ones are:
Isune.. She's awesome. When she first came back Joli gave her a bunny cake and she freaked out, thinking I was trying to get her to eat a live bunny. Lots of little things that have gone on between me and her. I like to gossip with her about lots of things, but I haven't seen her around lately.
Elcyrion.. Of course.  I don't think I really need to say why. He's just awesome in his awesomeness and it doesn't need defending.
Xenthos.. Because he roleplayed me teaching him how to dance properly. He's the cutest most adorable fae in the world.. to Joli at least.
I always thought Erion's characters were really good, even if they did cause a huge amount of chaos.
Isune.. She's awesome. When she first came back Joli gave her a bunny cake and she freaked out, thinking I was trying to get her to eat a live bunny. Lots of little things that have gone on between me and her. I like to gossip with her about lots of things, but I haven't seen her around lately.
Elcyrion.. Of course.  I don't think I really need to say why. He's just awesome in his awesomeness and it doesn't need defending.
Xenthos.. Because he roleplayed me teaching him how to dance properly. He's the cutest most adorable fae in the world.. to Joli at least.
I always thought Erion's characters were really good, even if they did cause a huge amount of chaos.
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Elcyrion's a bit of an airhead, but he's a lot of fun. Likes to sneak up on people and say things on channels all of a sudden.
Diamondais2005-12-19 17:22:23
QUOTE(Ialie @ Dec 18 2005, 01:21 PM)
People should be roleplaying all the time. There is no "better roleplay" Even if what you are doing isn't important, such as emoting that you are tending your garden or raising your family. It is no different or less than someone roleplaying being an insane dictator who has seven personalities and who only sleeps in the nude.
So I don't think there is a reason to get credit for roleplay. It is what you should be doing anyway. Its like getting credit for breathing.
So I don't think there is a reason to get credit for roleplay. It is what you should be doing anyway. Its like getting credit for breathing.
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This seemed to be more created to show those who stood out, not just who was the 'best'. Some peoples roleplays are just amazing, they fit in with their city/commune perfectly or they work towards changing things that they think would work better and go about it in a good way. Yes, everyone should always be roleplaying, but there are just some who stand out more
Unknown2005-12-19 17:28:11
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Diamondais, definitely. And Tully.
What is wrong with you people? Why is the Tullymiester not getting more mad props?
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
Anisu2005-12-19 18:03:46
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Dec 19 2005, 07:28 PM)
What is wrong with you people? Why is the Tullymiester not getting more mad props?
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
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It is not because Tully stands out more then others cause his RP is rather unique, that he is the best out there, nor is a rebel a better RPer then a lawfull person. They are just more noticable. I can think of several good RPers that most of you will say 'eh, who?'. Because their RP doesn't involve being known by the entire basin but rather their RP involves being just average people in a city or commune.
Ialie2005-12-19 18:10:21
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Dec 19 2005, 12:28 PM)
What is wrong with you people? Why is the Tullymiester not getting more mad props?
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
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Having rp skills only means that you aren't OOC in public. If you can do that you are as good as anyone else at RP. End of Story.
Joli2005-12-19 19:54:01
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Dec 19 2005, 03:32 AM)
Elcyrion's a bit of an airhead, but he's a lot of fun. Likes to sneak up on people and say things on channels all of a sudden.
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Big cousin isn't an airhead! He's actually very intelligent.. Just talk to him more and you'll see.
Aiakon2005-12-19 20:54:38
QUOTE(Ialie @ Dec 19 2005, 07:10 PM)
Having rp skills only means that you aren't OOC in public. If you can do that you are as good as anyone else at RP. End of Story.
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agreed.
Jack2005-12-19 21:18:38
QUOTE(B_a_L_i @ Dec 19 2005, 05:28 PM)
What is wrong with you people? Why is the Tullymiester not getting more mad props?
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
NO ONE COMES CLOSE TO TULLY IN TERMS OF RP SKILLZ. END OF STORY.
There isn't anyone, and I have met alot of people in game. Alot. I just don't think anyone can compare to teh Boyo.
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Wrong.
Unknown2005-12-19 23:05:03
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Having rp skills only means that you aren't OOC in public. If you can do that you are as good as anyone else at RP. End of Story.
I poop on you.
I say Tully is the 'best' becuase of the effort he puts into his RP. That statement implies that it takes no skill to rp the way Tully does. And there is a reason he is known across the basin, its becuase his RP is so damned good.
Jack2005-12-19 23:11:31
It's because his RP is so loud.
It was the same way when Guido was in his hey-day, he was babbling all hours of the day and night, and everybody knew who he was.
Tully's a good RPer, but he's not the best.
EDIT: Truth, but watch your language. ~Shiri~
It was the same way when Guido was in his hey-day, he was babbling all hours of the day and night, and everybody knew who he was.
Tully's a good RPer, but he's not the best.
EDIT: Truth, but watch your language. ~Shiri~
Verithrax2005-12-20 02:01:02
QUOTE(Joli @ Dec 19 2005, 04:54 PM)
Big cousin isn't an airhead! He's actually very intelligent.. Just talk to him more and you'll see.Â
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It was a joke . If you ever saw Elcyrion IC, you know why it's funny.
Joli2005-12-20 02:03:46
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Dec 19 2005, 09:01 PM)
It was a joke . If you ever saw Elcyrion IC, you know why it's funny.
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He's really evil on the inside.. he compared me to Kalodan..
And I see him IC more than you do!
Terenas2005-12-20 06:45:53
I just try not to go OOC in public. Not sure how I'm supposed to RP a Chieftain too, I suppose I could grunt and demand virgins and treasures..or maybe that's a Pirate or Dragon.
Verithrax2005-12-20 07:04:17
QUOTE(terenas @ Dec 20 2005, 03:45 AM)
I just try not to go OOC in public. Not sure how I'm supposed to RP a Chieftain too, I suppose I could grunt and demand virgins and treasures..or maybe that's a Pirate or Dragon.Â
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Depends on what you do with the virgins afterwards.
Seriously, there isn't a way you're 'supposed' to RP a chieftain. Just think about your character, give him a personality, and try to act/talk according to it; a few good questions to ask are wether he's brave or cowardly, controlled or short-tempered, a warmonger or a pacifist, emotional or rational? Why is he in his guild? Why is he the chieftain? What are his thoughts on the Taint, Light, Nature, Wyrd? You don't have to roleplay according to a model, or act like a Serenguard is 'supposed' to act. Just get your character's motivations, ideals, and personality straight. Just give it some thought, and you'll have made your RP more interesting for everyone.
Gwylifar2005-12-20 14:27:43
QUOTE(Ialie @ Dec 19 2005, 01:10 PM)
Having rp skills only means that you aren't OOC in public. If you can do that you are as good as anyone else at RP. End of Story.
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I couldn't disagree more.