Guess what. Gorgogs will be the bashing area again. Everyone who could finally hunt places on Prime, and I had alot of people telling me how glad they were that Astral was back, they could finally hunt places on Prime, will be forced out again. But oh well, guess this means people better start thinking up historical reasons for more bashing grounds or just switch to PK more.

Hmm. I think the point Gregori was making was that we have again gone from A->Z in terms of extremeness with a change.

I like the insanity idea; however, I don't know wtf is up with this 10 minute time limit. At level 90, like 2-3x that just to get 1% if I'm linking a single creature, bashing it, and relinking. I might be able to get 1% in 15-20 minutes if I'm power linking and bashing multiple thingies at a time.

Now, why exactly would I bother even going to Astral period when I could (yet again, I feel sorry for the low level people) whore out the elemental planes, the moors, hammerhead sharks, gorgogs, tosha pits, etc... and gain gold + more experience + no insanity?

This change, while nice RP wise, made Astral almost pointless.

Estarra:

The tactic will be: Geomancer sits on Capricorn and spams demesne summon. Stupidity doesn't throw you off balance, so your summon alias can be:

#alias su {demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target;demesne summon @target}

Whilst the rotating combatants .. well, rotate.

What you've also done is screwed the balance of playerbase somewhat: the one who wins is also the one with enough active combatants to flit on and off.

The one who wins is also the one who flits on and off WITH a cubix.

So, in short, i don't think the changes will be as interesting as You'd think. But thats just pessimistic me.

Hmm, yeah, its just a little overboard. I -did- spend a lot of time up there, but Im going on 3 hours now since I came down and my insanity level is still sociopath. Still getting random afflictions, still mass stupidity to the point I am just idling, heck afk 3/4ths the time. I know fully well its illegal, but its just to the point where its less annoying to be shrubbed, at least I cant be hurt as a shrub, and dont make a fool of myself when trying to speak to anyone or anything. I would be entirely happy if the insanity ratio were brought down to about equal time spent on astral, but I've reached about the same time off astral as I was on astral now, and my insanity level still hasnt decreased. in the time it's taken to come down, I could have made 10% or so bashing, when the entire trip on astral netted me about 8 1/2% person, and very little gold. I think in the future, if it remains as bad as it is, Ill just stick to bashing out the gorgogs and aslarans/krokani, as at least that way I can still make gold and exp, and if something happens, Im able toh help my commune defend a raid, or speak coherently with my wife, and still manage to gain exp

While I understand this and am glad that the area has been redesigned to fit closer to what it was intended to be, I don't think it's unreasonable that some are not impressed with the change when it removes something that was considered a resource for many players, and leaves only a resource for very few.

There are also better ways of going about things. Why not hold off on making Astral a titan-only bashing ground until an area similar to what Astral was can be provided for everyone else? The loss of Astral won't be a problem at all in this case. Why not arrange something to placate or reimburse cubix owners now that the primary use of the artifact has been affected, or give it an equally useful application in aiding levelling some other way?

I just dislike the reasoning behind these sort of changes. One group doesn't need to be made happy at the expense of others. There should be a gradual scale of opportunities for all levels, classes and organizations, yet it seems that a useful high-level ground was entirely shifted to become a titan ground. Why not try to aim for less overt alterations that don't act to the detriment of anyone?

Yes, I know its nicer to be congratulated than deal with dissatisfaction, and I do think the insanity alone is very clever. But meh.

What I mean is, are there bashing areas on prime or other planes now that are better then the last time I was playing, because back then, astral was the only real bashing area.

I know and I totally agree, there is no point - other than pure roleplay - in going to Astral if it is going to stay as is. I like the changes a lot, I just think there needs to be more balance to them.

Sparkleberries!

All I can say is I had actually started enjoying Lusternia again. I had a goal that I was working towards, and I would have been happy if that goal was made more difficult, but it was giving me some enjoyment nonetheless.

As per usual, Lusternia policy dictates any change must be overboard, and that enjoyment is gone completely. Whether I stick around or not will remain to be seen, and no this isn't a "change this or I leave" post. This is a I have watched the same thing over and over for a year post, and I am just finally tired of it.

Oh yes those too. Forgot those. I hope people start charging more for the increased risk.

... yeah, I'm going to have to start charging more. If I go harvesting, by the time I'm done with one sphere I'll already be dying from stupidity. Meh. Even without the risk, it's just stupid. With the risk, it's .

Perhaps.. there is a quest to fix the tear.. oh wait.. it was forever changed.. OOOh Maybe there is a quest to keep closing the tear but everyonce in awhile it breaks open!

If the quest starts with throwing the Divine into it. I am all there!

Here, let me quote your own signature.

You mistake me for a man who gives a damn. I make no claims of not being foolish. The thing is I admit when I do something stupid and try and fix it. I am betting policy number two will be coming shortly. "give it a few months to see how it works out."

So what I'm gathering here, unless something amazing gets discovered.

I'm going to have A LOT more competition for bashing gorgogs... and probably for all of my other bashing zones.

EDIT:


This looks interesting


o The Karmic Blessing of Chaos
- Random chance to resist ailments of the mind.


Someone who isn't me, go test it.

Well for people like me who don't have hours and hours to spend bashing this change is great. I can be assured that there won't be tons of people who have killed all the mobs allready.

I made 10% today. Normally thats how much I make in 10 days.

It is great for you now but as you increase in level 10 minutes of bashing astral won't mean squat to you.

I like that the creatures were made stronger, it's more exciting and I can't just sit there and link without giving a care...but I'm sad that only the repops drop gold I wouldn't even have minded if they dropped a lesser amount...the insanity is a cool touch but the recovery time is waaaaay too long..

I know its reletivly low, but I'm at level 77. I wasn't bashing for 10 minutes, I was bashing for a cumulative 2 hours although I was only looking really paying attention for about 50 minutes of that. If I tried that in a normal bashing area I'd be dead. Go up, kill 5 goats, come down. wait a few minutes go up, link 2 goats , go down. repeat. Gave me plenty of time to relax and not worry about all the mobs being bashed out or someone comming along and trying to kill me.