Insanity

by Shorlen

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Gregori2005-12-05 03:12:45
Well I would like to thank the Admin for making Astral harder. Before you think this is tongue in cheek. I really am glad you made Astral harder it should be harder.

However I would like to point out a few things.

1) we asked for mobs to be made a few levels higher so that groups were needed more to hunt there
2) we asked that links be random 1- 3 spawns per link
3) we specifically asked that Astral NOT be made a Titan/Demigod only bashing area.

You have accomplished 1 and 2, and made it 3 anyways. The no gold is just a horrid idea. I go there spend 20 minutes hunting, if I am lucky and don't die. Hope I am sane enough to come down again, and then sit around for upwards of an hour picking my nose because I can't RP, I can't bash prime to get gold, I can't do much of anything at all. All for what? 1% experience?

Astral is not worth it now for anyone other than Titans/Demigods and masochists.

I am curious as a customer and a player, why Lusternia always seems to fall on a policy of any change must be the most extreme change possible? Can't we for once do things in baby steps?
Unknown2005-12-05 03:13:36
QUOTE(Jello @ Dec 4 2005, 10:09 PM)
I'm out of the loop... how does one bash now if you can't stay on astral for more than 10 minutes?
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I'm guessing it's just a theme-park now. ninja.gif

Well, in all seriousness I'm sure it'll be tweaked. Not even the less serious bashers fight for ten minutes unless the gain is just so wonderful that a small break between sessions is worthwhile.
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:14:41
Isn't it obvious that you don't bash Astral now?
Estarra2005-12-05 03:15:41
QUOTE(Daevos @ Dec 4 2005, 05:18 PM)
I really like the change to the astral beasts' strength, but I think the insanity needs some tweaking. Especially since the wild nodes competition requires us to spend large amount of time up there. It has now been over two hours since the last competition ended, and I'm still neurotic.
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Personally, I'm interested in seeing how new strategies may develop during wild nodes. Obviously, sitting up there the entire time will drive you insane. Will teams begin dividing up among themselves to enter the wild nodes tournament at different stages? Perhaps a group of 'fresh' celestians have been held back, then they suddenly storm Capricorn and lay waste to the gibbering magnagorans who are too insane to defend themselves.

Just a thought.... bananasword.gif
Yuniko2005-12-05 03:19:28
So can all the people with low health get free reincarnations? Because its not fair to people who are level 82 to have 3k health and not be able to bash somewhere to actually GAIN exp.
Gregori2005-12-05 03:19:44
I am betting for most the new strategy will be.. not bothering unsure.gif
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:21:23
So wait, do demigods and titans suffer from insanity? If they do not, then I know exactly how wild nodes is going to end up because a certain former demigod now titan is always on at the time wild nodes goes into play smile.gif
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:24:26
Idea: At higher levels, the rate at which you become insane decreases.
Viravain2005-12-05 03:25:37
QUOTE(Yuniko @ Dec 4 2005, 10:19 PM)
So can all the people with low health get free reincarnations?  Because its not fair to people who are level 82 to have 3k health and not be able to bash somewhere to actually GAIN exp.
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Sure. While we're at it, why not just skip that, and go straight to giving everyone Demigod and 50 million gold? Because obviously, getting either is supposed to be easy.

On a less sarcastic tone, however, you're supposed to be afraid of astral - not parading up there for days and days at a time, seeing horrors and getting out of there relatively unscathed, physically or psychologically. Also, why should the monsters have gold? They're monsters. They're not going to run down to the store to buy a cup of noodles and a pint of vodka.

As for titans and demigods being affected....why not ask them?
Shiri2005-12-05 03:28:16
QUOTE(Viravain @ Dec 5 2005, 03:25 AM)
Also, why should the monsters have gold? They're monsters. They're not going to run down to the store to buy a cup of noodles and a pint of vodka.
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As realistic an argument as one may tink that is...ask the gorgogs etc.?
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:30:07
QUOTE(Viravain @ Dec 4 2005, 11:25 PM)
Sure. While we're at it, why not just skip that, and go straight to giving everyone Demigod and 50 million gold? Because obviously, getting either is supposed to be easy.

On a less sarcastic tone, however, you're supposed to be afraid of astral - not parading up there for days and days at a time, seeing horrors and getting out of there relatively unscathed, physically or psychologically. Also, why should the monsters have gold? They're monsters. They're not going to run down to the store to buy a cup of noodles and a pint of vodka.

As for titans and demigods being affected....why not ask them?
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Where do mitrans get all that purple ooze they vomit on you? They have to be eating something... and nothing is free!

On another note, why do dreaming manifestation, gorgogs, goblin sharks, or spirits of loboshigaru hunters have gold on them? *tease*

EDIT:

Vodka and noodles? That's a weird example...
Yuniko2005-12-05 03:30:40
I'm not Kaervas or Kharvik or any other godly basher. I don't go up there for days and days, one, because eventually yes. -gasp- I get BORED. omg. But, I was being serious. I can't tank A LOBSTROSITY with medicinebag/spirit totem/shielding because they are faster than I am. I'm a mugwump, level 3 equilibrium bit. Thanks Viravain, for slaughtering someones question like you tend to do all the time.
Gregori2005-12-05 03:34:26
Wow, another inspiring post by Viravain. Thank goodness for objective and clear headed admins! Can you get a little more condescending, insulting and biased?

As for your gold example, you better tell the moose then to drop their change purses, or maybe those damnable sand cobras, I am sure they must be filling the bars with their coin eh?
Unknown2005-12-05 03:37:41
I've never been up there so I am sure that discounts my opinion for most of you, but the depth and reality this adds to Astral, bringing it more in line with the histories, is fantastic in my opinion. If it makes Astral near impossible to venture to, well, that might be a good thing. We've gotten by without it since it was drained way back when, now people can go there for short trips and get out.

One thing that might be useful though, is an incentive to go to Astral now. If we're going to go insane, not earn any gold and have very little time to get xp, why will we go there at all?
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:39:37
Vote Insanity Defending Artifact

This baby would decrease the rate of gaining insanity. Instead of 10 minutes, you can stay 20 minutes!
Thaddeus2005-12-05 03:40:21
QUOTE(Viravain @ Dec 5 2005, 03:25 AM)
Sure. While we're at it, why not just skip that, and go straight to giving everyone Demigod and 50 million gold? Because obviously, getting either is supposed to be easy.

On a less sarcastic tone, however, you're supposed to be afraid of astral - not parading up there for days and days at a time, seeing horrors and getting out of there relatively unscathed, physically or psychologically. Also, why should the monsters have gold? They're monsters. They're not going to run down to the store to buy a cup of noodles and a pint of vodka.

As for titans and demigods being affected....why not ask them?
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Or how about skip giving everyone demigod and 50 million gold and start working on stuff that actually needs to be fixed, like demesnes.

Or just get rid of demigods and titans, cause level 99-100 punks/dragons/titans/etc on any IRE game is lame. Really, why should there be a reward just for mashing a macro over and over till you reach level 99.
Gregori2005-12-05 03:40:36
Alot of people worked hard to get the nodes back and keep them back. Making it harder is fine. Making it impossible, except for 5 minute excursions was a waste of those peoples time. We could have left astral alone and had the same effect.
Daganev2005-12-05 03:41:00
Ummm, I'm sorry but asking for a free rezz because they can't handle a place to bash that was until this point empty of anything to bash just requires being mocked. Nothing was changed to the races, or bashing in general. The only change was to astral and recently gorgogs have been the "bashing area" not astral.
Narsrim2005-12-05 03:42:51
Hmm. Well, we'll survive, I guess. There is always the Gorgog quest to release em in mass number.
Unknown2005-12-05 03:43:02
QUOTE(Gregori @ Dec 5 2005, 02:40 PM)
Alot of people worked hard to get the nodes back and keep them back. Making it harder is fine. Making it impossible, except for 5 minute excursions was a waste of those peoples time. We could have left astral alone and had the same effect.
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It is unfortunate but I doubt the admins waited until people put some effort into restoring Astral to whip out this little number. I am sure it is just a matter of timing. As everything else, it will probably get tweaked along the way.