I can do large amounts of damage, own Murphy's old flails, am 95% of one skillrank away from being omnitrans, have a decent system, am a changeling...

Oh, wait, I don't fight. Can I still be overpowered?

No

Hmm...i don't see my name on the list.

Hmmm, yeah really bad list of choices. Some of these people are more skill than overpoweredness. For instance, Murphy, while insanely overpowered with his pre cap hammers and bonecrusher class, -is- definately one of the best fighters in lusternia, irregardless of his weapons.

Narsrim to my knowledge pretty much has no artifacts, but is a mugwump, which while good, doesnt classify him as overpowered, and he still is one of the best fighters in lusternia.

Amaru......? Edit: Ah the trueheal/souless thing, meh, any celestine can do that

Kaervas is a geomancer mugwump titan: Insanely powerful, but only because that combination allows for crazy damage, AND he has an incredible amount of skill.

Geb? double pets that give amnesia and stupidity respectively, champ staff, artie staff, illusion wands, most combat related arties, but still, he has an incredible amount of skill. He is one of the few mages I have met fully compfortable fighting outside his demesne completely.

Yeah, this topic is stupid, how do you define overpowered. What is perfectly balanced to one person is of course overpowered to another. Serenguards hate ghosting and lich, and we always hear bitching about drawdown and resurgem.

Its nearly impossible to answer this question objectively, as very few, and I do mean few, of us can do that effectively, either having been of all guilds or at least multiple, tried out multiple skills, or just not being extremely partial to the "if it beats me, its gotta be overpowered." resolution














*sneaks this in* Assault shouldnt be a swing, NERF!

You have been bitchslapped to death by the might of Niaras gloves of harvesting.

She's scary I tell you.

Um, I agree with Nars and Dia, Shiro. Bad list. None of those fighters are particulary overpowered. When you have warriors with pre-cap weapon stats that are insane and everyone else is stuck with mediocre stats, you'll get 'overpowered' results. Amaru isn't overpowered. He makes the most of his skills and is effective. How many other Celestines fight as well as he does, with the same abilities? He has -0- arties and doesn't really need soulless to kill. Narsrim is amazing with hexes. Hexes are strong and he's intelligent, knows how to bring his abilities together and make magic. He has -0- arties. I should remind you all that he was good with healing as well. Not many other Moondancers that have quite achieved the level Tuek and Narsrim reached.

Overpowered, to me..is seeing people with weapons with stats that should be obsolete, demenses, balance bonuses and the stupid amount of in game buffs and truefavours a person can receive.

I voted for Amaru though, as best fighter. Actually, it could run a bit even between Nars and Amaru.

And if you want a summary of Ixion's status, ask Geb. He gives the most enlightening report. *grin*

Are there -any-? Dumi, Asmo, Vhri and I are all quite a bit worse

Both my plate and helm can be forged.

After 180ish every point of damage stat adds around 4 damage per point per hit on someone deffed.. With runes/aura it's possible to reach my one of my sword damage stats and given that the extra few points I have over most people really doesn't add up to much, I don't see the problem. Feel free to test it yourself.

Warriors who can't handle demesnes are too lazy to get to know curing.....

I think Malicia was talking about over powered in a group combat scope.

Are warriors essential in group combat? No

Are wiccans? No

Are guardians? No

However, the most fundamental/absolute necessity is a demesne. Although I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest Mages are more important than Druids now that wisp isn't too hot. I've started asking Aquamancers to use their demesne in group combat, and it works out far far far better than Hartstone.

Ah...yeah, demesnes are essential in Groupcombat. And it would depend in what situations I'd use mage and druid demesnes. I personally thing that BT demesnes are better than HS, but it's damn easy in Druid vs. Druid combat to break the demesne, so I'd use a geomancer there. If it went against Celestians, though, I'd use druids, for the simple fact that saplings are good.

I've noticed. It makes for good IC propaganda.

Haha, right. I didn't mean that I personally had trouble with demenses one on one, so much as demenses are strong, in a group setting. Thanks Narsrim! I've sparred you and didn't find your demense to be so much trouble. Add your dreamweaving effects (embedded epilespy for one) or sap and it can be troublesome, but not an impossible situation. Now, how many times have enemy groups been wiped out by the demense of a seren druid and two other fighters?

You should have added 'Precision' to your list, Shiro. *sage*

Clearly Amaru is the most powerful, not to mention the only reason Celest is surviving.

Your kidding right? Amaru is powerful but he is not the reason we are surviving since he hasnt been around that much till recently. I would give Geb the position of best fighter in Celest. To go with the thread i would say Kaervas since i fear the Geomancer demense and Kaervas hurts alot.

None of those fighters are overpowered in my mind, since I feel a good bit of tactical planning can win the day against any one of them (Really anyone as a matter of fact, since no one is unbeatable). I would say a better poll would have been on the most overpowered ability or combination of abilities. This poll seems to be more suited towards a list of who would you fear to face the most in one on one confrontation. If I had to choose, I would have chosen Narsrim when he had Patchou.

<3 Patchou.

Yeah, Patchou + Aeon + Whammy Hexes = Overpowered...Narsrim would probally win that.

Handmaiden Blackout + Shieldstun/Trueheal/Soulless. I'd put it on par in overpoweredness with Patchou and Mugwump with Hexes.

Nerf Champion Pets and Mugwumps somemore.