Guardians

by Trakis

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Ashteru2005-12-21 17:19:45
And I have still troubles as a level 81 human Blacktalon with fire and magic proofed robes.
Trakis2005-12-21 19:46:56
About Honour: Does it remain active if you move from the room you use it in? How long does it last?

Also, is it only the creatures that appear after you link that give the increased experience?

Do the respawns give less experience?

Ekard: I actually picked Human after reading that thread where you were talking about human stats at high levels. I can't wait to evolve more. smile.gif
Sylphas2005-12-22 01:39:04
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Dec 21 2005, 01:19 PM)
And I have still troubles as a level 81 human Blacktalon with fire and magic proofed robes.
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Unknown2005-12-22 01:44:01
QUOTE(Trakis @ Dec 21 2005, 12:46 PM)
About Honour: Does it remain active if you move from the room you use it in? How long does it last?
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Yes, it remains active if you move from the room, but I don't know how long it lasts for. I woud guess/hope until you quit or die.

EDIT:
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Dec 21 2005, 10:19 AM)
And I have still troubles as a level 81 human Blacktalon with fire and magic proofed robes.
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Heh heh.. I was surprised as all hell when a lvl 12ish unarmored tae'dae I was playing took a hit from a Gorgog and survived.
Morik2005-12-22 02:25:21
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Dec 22 2005, 01:19 AM)
And I have still troubles as a level 81 human Blacktalon with fire and magic proofed robes.
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And I have problems with fire proofed cloak and resistance as a level 82 Paladin. Even with Surge, a couple of 1000 a round attacks can really screw me over.

So I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe gorgogs are just naturally /hard/ ? tongue.gif
Ashteru2005-12-22 02:38:05
QUOTE(Sylphas @ Dec 21 2005, 07:53 AM)
I do however, have to occasionally use Waxing to stay high enough that I feel safe.  1k hits are still dangerous if you're not careful, and your fae don't fire when you need them to.

This is as a level 69 Furrikin Moondancer, with Drawdown.
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That's the problem, Morik.... sad.gif
Shiri2005-12-22 02:40:27
Without nymph he'd die freaking fast, but yeah.
Sylphas2005-12-22 06:25:47
Without nymph I have to sip and usually wax every other hit. Double aggressive gorgogs I can take one round and then have to run for my life.

QUOTE(Morik)
Even with Surge, a couple of 1000 a round attacks can really screw me over.


A couple of 1k hits a round? You're either fighting multiple gorgogs, or found the hellishly fast ones. They usually hit me once before I get eq back, sometimes twice. And a lot of the time they like using their weak 400 or so damage attack, and Mother + Mercy can usually cover that by itself.

It's odd, though. I'm not sure if it's me being a higher level only, but as a faeling, they seemed to hit a LOT harder. During the first event where they came out, I took a hit or two and then ran home to Seren to do something else.
Shryke2005-12-22 07:25:28
I'm pretty sure it was a couple 1k hits in a row
Ekard2005-12-22 20:51:15
QUOTE(Trakis @ Dec 21 2005, 09:46 PM)
About Honour: Does it remain active if you move from the room you use it in? How long does it last?

Also, is it only the creatures that appear after you link that give the increased experience?

Do the respawns give less experience?

Ekard: I actually picked Human after reading that thread where you were talking about human stats at high levels. I can't wait to evolve more.  smile.gif
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Honor works until you leave game. It stay up even if you die.

Natural astral creatures are still good exp, they are equal strong like gorgogs i would say. They drop gold too.
Those from links are harder give more exp and dont drop any gold.

And yea waitng for another level when you get next point to stats is great just like learning for next skillrank and waiting for your next skill.
Hiriako2006-10-20 19:39:39
I can't really say, some people seem to have immense problems hunting. I don't get scared by, or run from, anything else days. Even Manifestations of the Dreaming I fight solo. Granted, I have to use scrolls, sparkles and sips, but still. Hunting just isn't difficult for me. Having good weapons makes the offense reasonably fast, and I just don't easily die from damage.

That said, I'm a level 77 Elfen Lord Serenguard with transcended herbs (herblore).

I think that getting the best quality of equipment makes a huge difference. Good armour, the proper herbs and cures and, this is a key point, using power for defenses! There are a few defenses which make make huge differences. Orange for Lowmagic users (+1 con), Transcedant totem skills (Drawdown/Nightkiss/Stagform/(Blackegg? I forget the name)), honor, numen, etc. I even use serpent when hunting from time to time, because it means I don't die. Power is easily replacable, so use it!

I can't really say, some people seem to have immense problems hunting. I don't get scared by, or run from, anything else days. Even Manifestations of the Dreaming I fight solo. Granted, I have to use scrolls, sparkles and sips, but still. Hunting just isn't difficult for me. Having good weapons makes the offense reasonably fast, and I just don't easily die from damage.

That said, I'm a level 77 Elfen Lord Serenguard with transcended herbs (herblore).

I think that getting the best quality of equipment makes a huge difference. Good armour, the proper herbs and cures and, this is a key point, using power for defenses! There are a few defenses which make make huge differences. Orange for Lowmagic users (+1 con), Transcedant totem skills (Drawdown/Nightkiss/Stagform/(Blackegg? I forget the name)), honor, numen, etc. I even use serpent when hunting from time to time, because it means I don't die. Power is easily replacable, so use it!
Ashteru2006-10-20 19:44:12
A few months late. tongue.gif

Anyway, to update, I now have no problems, ever, bashing anything as a Mugwump. I can bash Astral easily, etc. So I usually just watch TV while pressing my bashing macro. tongue.gif

To show off my bashing aptness:
Trans resilience
Master Magic
61/52 robes
a bookbinding tome
a symbol
level 3 health artie
absorption rune

With putre, I am great against anything physical, the tome is going to add a lot of healing (about 350 to each sip if it's divided) and the healthartie enables me to have 3942 health as a Mugwump without any other deffs.
Oh yeah, I am a guardian, so I guess the original poster might want to consider some buffs like mine if he wants to do good. If he still exists.

Oh, I love bashing. I just don't have enough time. sad.gif
Hiriako2006-10-20 20:14:58
Eh, I was reading old news while looking up information on human stat growth. I don't typically use the forums, but I'm bored at work today wink.gif

I tend to do homework during bashing. I did forget, I do also have Trans Resilience and high Magic, I'm sure those two help.
Unknown2006-10-20 21:09:55
Yellow gives you +1 CON. Orange is no hunger.

Make absorption runes stop magic damage attacks, too!
Hiriako2006-10-20 21:59:38
Gah, bloody 'ell. Thank you for the correction there. I almost never use them, so I never remember which is which!
Ekard2006-10-22 10:45:05
QUOTE(Ashteru @ Oct 20 2006, 09:44 PM) 344615

A few months late. tongue.gif

Anyway, to update, I now have no problems, ever, bashing anything as a Mugwump. I can bash Astral easily, etc. So I usually just watch TV while pressing my bashing macro. tongue.gif

To show off my bashing aptness:
Trans resilience
Master Magic
61/52 robes
a bookbinding tome
a symbol
level 3 health artie
absorption rune

With putre, I am great against anything physical, the tome is going to add a lot of healing (about 350 to each sip if it's divided) and the healthartie enables me to have 3942 health as a Mugwump without any other deffs.
Oh yeah, I am a guardian, so I guess the original poster might want to consider some buffs like mine if he wants to do good. If he still exists.

Oh, I love bashing. I just don't have enough time. sad.gif

Hmm and how many linked creatures you fight at once?
Maybe im doing something wrong i could not watch tv and press macro key in same time. But i usually link 2-6 surges depends from sphere. 2-3 on sagi but around 6 on leo.
Ashteru2006-10-22 11:20:53
Usually as a Mugwump I have no troubles with two bulls at once, as a human, no trouble with three to four, excluding the extremly rare, extremly strong ones that come sometimes. tongue.gif And I usually do four to five surges.
Noteably, I onl, or nearly only, bash physical due to my extreme level of tankieness against that damage. tongue.gif

(For example, I can tank 4 hammerheads at once in Bondero as a Mugwump.)
Gandal2006-10-22 20:46:10
Hmm, don't have enough lessons for forcefield, so as a lvl 70 imperial merian aqua with knowledge blessing, I dish out pretty major damage (with 20 int, cows and rockeaters die in 2 hits), but I'm waaaay untanky (3216 with staff mad.gif). Used to be a lucidian (4k+ health with staff), and...yeah. I use health potions, staff, healspring, occasional sweetfount, and regen from being in water. Anything else that is good?
Unknown2006-10-22 22:31:51
My god, I feel like reincarnating and swapping skills now :S I've bashed all the way to 78 with the hit-and-run strategy, could never tank anything at all.
Gandal2006-10-22 22:32:53
Not even krokani? I suppose you mean gorgogs and astral.