She didnt say guilds she said archtype.

Yes, but you missed the entire point Munsia, regardless of archtype two guilds have access to Transmig, and two to Lich..this isn't hard math.

No but it's the point of what types are using it. Like only one type can use transmig because well.. druids are weak. And they give lich to an already tanky guild. And then to another not so tanky guild btu then again it's kinda like giving moon to warriors and wiccans yet ur'guard dont really get that much of a choice

See, here is the thing, transmig > lich and druids are far from weak. The skill lich is fine and blockable, transmig isn't blockable no matter what. I think this debate is useless, people are just rewording thier prior arguments.

Far from weak? we cant tank worth crap. So i think it is fair we get something that makes up for not being able to tank anything

Mages (who aren't me) can't tank much either, would that justify us getting immunity to exp loss?

They can take psionics and have forcefield

Heh just like druids get ecology charms right? From what I heard Narsrim said you're tankier than he is, so don't give me that crap. Roll on envoys, it's about time transmigration was balanced.

Munsia. Last night Narsrim was telling me how you are far tankier than him, and he is one tanky mofo. I fail to see how you cant tank, especially with your ecology charms + barkskin + whatever else. You have a what, 20% resistence to cutting now because of that charm?

Now you're accusing me of lieing? are you nuts? Narsrim can tank 10x more then I can it's just I can seldom use my medicinebag but there are alot of cases it cannot be used which makes it pointless in pvp. Our charms are also pretty much useless since you dont notice a reall difference. I know the percentages on them and still it's only like 100-200 damage off of that specific type you choose.
Edit: Barkskin is practically useless although some say they notice a difference. 20% cutting doesnt do much in battle since i'm still dieing to cutting damage
edit2: Narsrim has... drawdown (which is blunt AND cutting) + barkskin + mother.
I have 20% cutting + barkskin + medicinebag which is useless in pvp

you're saying forcefield is equal to transmigration?

Dont put words into my mouth

20% cutting + normal sip & sparkleberry + medicine bag (= 2 sips) + some totem that cures an affliction and heals your health and mana every 10 secs + barkskin. Sounds pretty sweet to me.

Ahh just like psionics biofeedback then, and forcefield is equally as useless in pvp as are all psionics defs, disruption scroll anyone?

Where do you get this? you cant use medicinebag AND sipping
and I try not to use totem since I only have 17k willpower and it's 1k willpower a hit, one room, people that lust you can use it, and 5p
And medicinebag is more like 1 1/2 sips.
And my normal sip is 500.. so I only touch bag for around 800

So what -ARE- you trying to say?

How is forcefield useless in pvp? I have almost 1 1/2 as more ego then I do health and after that goes you still arent dead. you just switch to health

I don't think you understand how much burnout sucks...

You cant use psionics for what... 10-30 minutes?

Guess I wasn't obvious enough when I said "disruption scroll anyone?"