http://tailoring.serene-dream.net/

I created this tailoring database because I know how annoying it is having to go through and find designs quickly and easily and look at their descriptions, as well as having to tell people them . It lists all the different things, including appearance, dropped, examined, body parts covered, and commodities. I could have used a wiki but...nah. I've been meaning to learn about MySQL and databases and such, so this was a nice opportunity. Eventually I'll put in a search feature so you can look for things that are a certain color, or have certain required comms, or whatever. I'm also going to put in a field for the designer, so if you designed something up there and see it, let me know you did it.

Oh and finally, if people from Serenwilde/Celest/Glomdoring/other cartels want to send in designs to add (or not, whatever), I'd love them in a message . Umm that's about it. Hopefully it works correctly. Enjoy!

Thanks Veo. Put the link on your sig.

Adding the link to my jewelry site

You're putting the comms?! Now everyone will know exactly how much it costs for something to be made. I do know it'll be a help to alot of people, but Tailoring economy = gone. Secrecy of materials also = gone. Maybe you need to password protect that part somehow...

EDIT: I mean, I don't feel it's very fair that the tailoring comms are up but the ones for the other trades aren't. I feel that the overall idea of providing comms info is one of those double-edged swords...

Congrats Veonira, that looks awesome. I have something like that for the forging trade on my projects list, wish I had time to do it *smirk*

I like the page design as well, the font is a tad small, but the whole simplistic and clean layout is very elegant. Cudos on that.

Regarding the fonts, how about using a non-fixed size such as x-small? Then you can have a small default size while allowing people to simply enlarge them via CTRL+mousewheel if need be.

You can still charge for your time, you know. And charge for scarcity. It costs me 500 gold for a powerstone (normally).. and I charge 30 gold per charge. That is a profit of 25 gold per charge... it's outrageous.. but there are few enchanters and enchantment is so terribly boring. Everyone knows this, but I still have customers. Lots of em. Veo's system won't make the slightest bit of difference.

You should try to take Artisan then, usually you wont actually supply your own comms, and get paid only for your time, and that's even if you can manage to find people to buy furniture. Well except the small things.. like pipes and kegs.

I really don't think it'll matter. People understand you're going to want to profit. If you do come across a problem with it, let me know and I'll definitely take it down. And they can't really know how much it costs unless they actively keep track of comm prices all over the basin.




Hmm. You should be able to enlarge it no matter how I set the font. I'm not sure what you mean by CTR+mousewheel (probably because I'm on a mac), but using my browser's enlarge text thing, it works fine.

My player has never had a problem with anyone knowing comm costs for trades. (I have... well, all trades except bookbinding, herbs and alchemy for some reason).

In fact, most people tend to ignore the comms in tailoring patterns and make me do everything to do with them for them anyway

That's amazing Veo, how do I make one?

Veonira, I'm not a tailor but I can certainly appreciate all the hard work you no doubt put into compiling all that. Looks great, easy to navigate, etc.

Awesome!

PHP and MySQL

And thanks for the comments

My pure selfishness aside, I'll be sending you the designs for Raventhread cartel, unless someone gets to you first (It won't be all of them, not trans yet). I like the database, but it'll be a bit strange to ask people IG to refer to it if they don't know about it.

Wonderfully done Veonira

That's true, which is the unfortunate thing. Usually most people have something they specifically want, but if someone was really having a hard time I may message them and ask if they wanted to look at it.

Depends on the people. Some are going to throw tantrums even if you offer them your services at cost.



Taking it down after it causes a problem is what my father would call "closing the barn door after the cow got out".

Everyone who needs to know the commodities can look them up without your database. Most people can find out anyway with a little effort. but making it all common, easily accessed knowledge is just asking for trouble.

In the RL business world, publish a list of your own costs where your customers can find them, and you can kiss your job goodbye.

Some people may throw tantrums. I've never had anyone throw a tantrum to me, or ask for a comm list to check the price, or have a problem if I charged them a fee when they did provide the comms. If someone honestly refused to pay more than the comms price if I were to ask it (especially when I always charge something reasonable), I would simply tell them to find another tailor.

I'm still thinking about whether to leave it up or not. At this point I wouldn't have the time to have a tailors only section that was actually secretive (although that'd be a nice project to start), so it'd just be another page with a different name. We'll see though, I really don't feel like I'm shooting myself in the foot here though.

May i suggest, if people have problems with showing comms, that perhaps you could list an "estimated price" (roughly double the comms cost) that way tailors can charge more or less based on actual comms and personal pricing.

Don't worry Veo, they still hate me more than they hate you.

Shorlen can't speak to Bau without sniping, and I just can't resist baiting him. I ruin the whole tailoring business, don'tcha know?

Edit: Not a personal attack! Just the noisiest opposition

Why do you need a tailor's only section when a tailor can look up the comms without it?

All in all, the database is a commendable effort, but you've got the proverbial snowballs chance of getting my cooperation as long as you take such a cavalier attitude toward the business side of the business.

And I'm never releasing comms information from Cat's Paw or Cat's Skein (that's 86 designs and counting).