Daganev2006-10-29 02:22:31
Max Scimitars are more rare than max hammers/rapiers as far as I know.
Unknown2006-10-29 14:03:22
QUOTE(Gandal @ Oct 29 2006, 02:01 AM) 347888
Master or no?
Which post do you refer to? Caedryn's was about a non-masterwork rapier, others (including Kromsh's) about masterwork weapons.
Gandal2006-10-29 16:17:16
So all the weapon stats are for masterweapons? Can there be one for regular?
Shryke2006-10-29 17:42:54
Regular weapons aren't really worth forging.
Daganev2006-10-29 18:00:08
QUOTE(Shryke @ Oct 29 2006, 09:42 AM) 348017
Regular weapons aren't really worth forging.
Thats not true, they just normally arn't worth reforging and "maxing" because we know there are higher stats out there.
However, for Rapiers, non master weapons, I can get speeds of 260.
Caedryn2006-10-29 18:31:34
QUOTE(Gandal @ Oct 29 2006, 02:01 PM) 347888
Master or no?
In both cases, master.
235 precision (280 speed, etc, etc - any max stat) on non-masterweapons has an absolutely miniscule possibility, if it's not actually impossible due to stat capping.
Unknown2006-10-29 21:26:59
I have a 265 speed normal katana, 15 speed away from max
Caedryn2006-10-30 07:24:34
As Daganev mentioned - there's not a hell of a lot of point in viewing 'normal' weapons as anything more than a stopgap before masterweapons.
The reason that data for the normal weapons isn't around is simply because 1) there's few all metal normal designs, I believe and 2) we tend not to forge them for a maximum, as it'd take the same time as a masterweapon to do, but with a cheaper sword.
The reason that data for the normal weapons isn't around is simply because 1) there's few all metal normal designs, I believe and 2) we tend not to forge them for a maximum, as it'd take the same time as a masterweapon to do, but with a cheaper sword.
Unknown2006-11-09 16:32:45
Damage: 164 Precision: 329 Speed: 232
Just got that for a masterwork klangaxe. Crappy, but it's above "max" damage.
Just got that for a masterwork klangaxe. Crappy, but it's above "max" damage.
Daganev2006-11-09 17:30:51
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 5 2006, 01:23 PM) 243126
CODE
Weapon Type |DAMAGE|PERCISION|SPEED|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            BLADEMASTERS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rapier      |35-110  |120-210|220-280|
Scimitar    |90-130 |170-235|120-195|
Broadsword  |130-180|120-190|120-170|
Longsword  |90-150 |120-190|120-170|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            BONECRUSHERS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hammer      |35-110  |120-210|200-280|
Morningstar |90-130 |170-235|100-195|
Flail      |130-180|120-190|100-170|
Mace        |90-150 |120-190|100-170|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              AXELORDS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Klangaxe    |70-220 |264-418|200-280|
Greataxe    |180-300|374-517|100-195|
Waraxe      |260-360|264-418|100-170|
Battleaxe  |180-300|264-418|100-170|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              PUREBLADES
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Katana      |70-220 |264-418|200-280|
Greatsword  |180-300|374-517|100-195|
Claymore    |260-360|264-418|100-170|
Bastardsword|180-300|264-418|100-170|Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
So I've been working on this for my guild... if anyone sees anything 'wrong' with it based on the NEW weapons only.. please share.
updated the list
Unknown2006-11-24 18:23:07
Waraxe: Damage: 296 Precision: 316 Speed: 177
170 speed isn't the max, it seems.
170 speed isn't the max, it seems.
Daganev2006-11-24 18:25:10
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 5 2006, 01:23 PM) 243126
CODE
Weapon Type |DAMAGE|PERCISION|SPEED|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            BLADEMASTERS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rapier      |35-110  |120-210|220-280|
Scimitar    |90-130 |170-235|120-195|
Broadsword  |130-180|120-190|120-180|
Longsword  |90-150 |120-190|120-180|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
            BONECRUSHERS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hammer      |35-110  |120-210|200-280|
Morningstar |90-130 |170-235|100-195|
Flail      |130-180|120-190|100-180|
Mace        |90-150 |120-190|100-180|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              AXELORDS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Klangaxe    |70-220 |264-418|200-280|
Greataxe    |180-300|374-517|100-195|
Waraxe      |260-360|264-418|100-180|
Battleaxe  |180-300|264-418|100-180|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
              PUREBLADES
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Katana      |70-220 |264-418|200-280|
Greatsword  |180-300|374-517|100-195|
Claymore    |260-360|264-418|100-180|
Bastardsword|180-300|264-418|100-180|Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â
So I've been working on this for my guild... if anyone sees anything 'wrong' with it based on the NEW weapons only.. please share.
updated again thanks.
Ildaudid2006-11-24 18:34:51
I get higher prc Katana's than that... Think I have a 424prc and If I remember the one I got from Chade is a 434 prc katana
ferlas2006-11-25 00:03:24
Scimitar |90-130 |170-235|120-195|
The damage can go lower than that, is this average or min/max?
The damage can go lower than that, is this average or min/max?
Unknown2006-11-25 00:06:17
Isn't Chade's prenerf?
Ildaudid2006-11-25 00:10:14
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Nov 24 2006, 07:06 PM) 356689
Isn't Chade's prenerf?
From what I understand there is no such thing as a "prenerf" 2 handed weapon. 2 handers didn't come out until after they nerfed weapon stats. (At least that is what I have been told)
Also I forged the 424prc on like a week ago.
Daganev2006-11-25 00:14:23
QUOTE(ferlas @ Nov 24 2006, 04:03 PM) 356687
Scimitar |90-130 |170-235|120-195|
The damage can go lower than that, is this average or min/max?
Its supposed to be Avrg - Max... nobody really cares about the min.
i.e. 50% of the time you will get atleast the first number, and the max you can get is the second number.
Daganev2006-12-10 04:28:16
just forged a 200/444/200 greatsword. so I updated the first page.
Unknown2006-12-10 04:38:28
I'm starting to agree with Clise in that there's no maximum stat for each differing weapon type, but instead a set maximum stat for all weapons, with some getting more of a chance than others.
...Don't mind me, it's late here. I'll explain it simpler.
A rapier has a 180 max damage (the max for broadswords), you're just reeeeeeeeeeeeeally unlikely to get that, whereas with a broadsword your chances for 180 damage aren't nearly as bad.
...Don't mind me, it's late here. I'll explain it simpler.
A rapier has a 180 max damage (the max for broadswords), you're just reeeeeeeeeeeeeally unlikely to get that, whereas with a broadsword your chances for 180 damage aren't nearly as bad.
Daganev2006-12-10 04:40:49
QUOTE(Kromsh @ Dec 9 2006, 08:38 PM) 361653
I'm starting to agree with Clise in that there's no maximum stat for each differing weapon type, but instead a set maximum stat for all weapons, with some getting more of a chance than others.
...Don't mind me, it's late here. I'll explain it simpler.
A rapier has a 180 max damage (the max for broadswords), you're just reeeeeeeeeeeeeally unlikely to get that, whereas with a broadsword your chances for 180 damage aren't nearly as bad.
Yes, except thats not really possible.
For example, there simply are not enough hammer strikes possible to get 280 speed on a one handed weapon thats not a rapier.
If ALL the strikes hit one stat, you could not add more than 136 to the base stat of the weapon.