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Laysus2006-01-13 21:58:50
The klingons managed it alright.


Edit: Plus you've now opened yourself up for a lot of jokes about how you've not progressed past the monosyllabic.
Emar2006-01-13 22:13:58
QUOTE(Laysus @ Jan 13 2006, 09:04 PM)
I'm going to have to do something I never wanted to do, and agree with Elcy on this one.

Unless you lot are really lazy speakers, there's no explanation for the apostrophes..
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QUOTE(nyla @ Jan 13 2006, 09:35 PM)
When I started it, I wanted all the words to be one syllable (SP?) The language was supposed to be non airy and more staccato (SP?) to represent something my twisted mind came up with.(I kinda invisioned when Crow spoke to be kind of a clicking type sound) To get this affect without five billioin four letter words I added apostrophes to get the desired affect. One I started with the apostrophes I couldnt stop. The Tongue of Crow book had every preposition in it and all of the crow tongue variations were words with apostrophes. (It made sense in my head)
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The apostrophes, as explained by Cairam, -are- there for a reason. They are great help in joining words, phrases and the like. Albeit they can be a superfluous on occasions (which I'm trying to fix) over all they're a great help.

Also, on unpronouncability, when I took over the tongue a while ago I aimed it to be as flowing as when a bird sings (i.e. did you know that a bird could sing 'supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' from Merry Poppings in a few seconds?) and as harsh as when a crow (of course) caws.

Personally I love the end result... Though it you can't understand the concept, obviously it's only meant for Blacktalon tongue.gif
Iridiel2006-01-16 15:15:15
In spanish adjectives go after the noun they refer to, and have gender and number acordingly to the noun they're referring to (wich sometimes allows us to avoid the noun, or move it around the sentence for more of a poetic effect). They can also be after the noun they refer to, but that would be more like poetic spanish than everyday spanish. So, you can say:
- El pollo loco (neutral, everyday spanish)
- El loco pollo (more poetic or in this case probably better for marketing because it calls your attention more due to being an unusual construct).

As both verbs, adjectives and nouns have gender and number in spanish, we get to play more with the order of the words in the sentences, omisions, pronouns and general layout of the sentence, while english is a bit more restricted.

Hope this helps, but after we know that each language has a gramatic and rules and those things, what has this to do with apostrophes?
Verithrax2006-01-17 06:55:41
Good titles are the ones that follow this simple pattern:

Whatever,

Position is generally whatever you are in your guild; for example, when I was an Aquamancer, I wore:

Dean Verithrax,

Dean is the title for secretaries.
Now I wear:

High Druid Verithrax, Lead Walker

High Druid is self explanatory. Lead Walker is my self-proclaimed title of leadership in my clan. Of course, when I was in New Celest (Ah, the old days) I once got to a place where, if I wanted to be really pedantic, I could sign news posts like this:

Dean Verithrax Stormwolf, Sprinkler of Wisdom, Celestian Ambassador, GR15 Aquamancer, GR4 Celestian.

Replacing with the appropriate rank names, of course. I can't wear that title, so I just picked the honorary title I liked the best and wore it.

Because, you see, a title exists to show your position in society or a particular thing you'd like associated with your name. It's not intended to be about your personality, some sort of silly pun (Strawberry Jammy Jamra, Stainless Inox), or a way to make your name sound cooler (Ur'Noob, cold heartless killer). And it's not something you should keep switching every five minutes. Pick a title and stick with it until you're given a position or something you'd like to wear.

Alright, I'm done nitpicking. Back to the thread.
Unknown2006-01-17 07:02:26
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Jan 9 2006, 10:16 AM)
and then you went and ruined it all by going Celestine. What a waste. Sigh.
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Yeah well Karrah is a rogue now. He doesn't really belong in any of the current cities or communes.
Unknown2006-01-17 07:05:34
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Jan 17 2006, 01:55 AM)
Good titles are the ones that follow this simple pattern:

Whatever,

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Because, you see, a title exists to show your position in society or a particular thing you'd like associated with your name. It's not intended to be about your personality, some sort of silly pun (Strawberry Jammy Jamra, Stainless Inox), or a way to make your name sound cooler (Ur'Noob, cold heartless killer). And it's not something you should keep switching every five minutes. Pick a title and stick with it until you're given a position or something you'd like to wear.

Alright, I'm done nitpicking. Back to the thread.
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That's exactly what I think.
Iridiel2006-01-17 09:42:47
I used to have (when I was aquamancer) something along the line of Lady Althana, Etheral Aquamancer (I was in Lisaera Order at the moment) wich when I went Moondancer was Moondust Guide Althana, Ethereal Dancer.
My position in the guild, my name, and then a hint at personal data I was proud off like my order and my guild.
Also my family was there too, but we went inactive sad.gif
Unknown2006-01-17 11:41:54
Oi, I swear everyone was a Moondancer at one point, I'm going to have to make a spoof comogenesis for Lusternia players where the Cradle of Life is Moondust, and everyone evolves out into the other guilds and nations.

Personally I like a ton of the Aquamancer titles, as they are half College half Navy.

Oh, and the new Moondancer titles too, I'm a "Midnight Ritualist" now wink.gif
Aiakon2006-01-17 13:42:25
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Jan 17 2006, 07:55 AM)
Good titles are the ones that follow this simple pattern:

Whatever,

Position is generally whatever you are in your guild; for example, when I was an Aquamancer, I wore:

Dean Verithrax,

Dean is the title for secretaries.
Now I wear:

High Druid Verithrax, Lead Walker

High Druid is self explanatory. Lead Walker is my self-proclaimed title of leadership in my clan. Of course, when I was in New Celest (Ah, the old days) I once got to a place where, if I wanted to be really pedantic, I could sign news posts like this:

Dean Verithrax Stormwolf, Sprinkler of Wisdom, Celestian Ambassador, GR15 Aquamancer, GR4 Celestian.

Replacing with the appropriate rank names, of course. I can't wear that title, so I just picked the honorary title I liked the best and wore it.

Because, you see, a title exists to show your position in society or a particular thing you'd like associated with your name. It's not intended to be about your personality, some sort of silly pun (Strawberry Jammy Jamra, Stainless Inox), or a way to make your name sound cooler (Ur'Noob, cold heartless killer). And it's not something you should keep switching every five minutes. Pick a title and stick with it until you're given a position or something you'd like to wear.

Alright, I'm done nitpicking. Back to the thread.
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Absolutely right. I whole-heartedly agree with you.
Nymerya2006-01-17 15:44:15
I don't know. I switch between wanting something that suits me, and something that denotes my position... so I go for both.


High Priestess of the Damned, Nymerya d'Erlette, Shadow of the Flame

I'm an Archbishop of the Church, as well as a Prophet. Shadow of the flame refers to my Order. Yet they're not simple as 'Archbishop Nymerya, Voice of Raezon'.

I think we should have some individuality.
Aiakon2006-01-17 15:52:19
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a title exists to show your position in society or a particular thing you'd like associated with your name.


Plenty of scope for individuality within the context of whatever rank you hold. Your titles, Nym, aren't really the sort that Verithrax is complaining about. They -do- describe your position.. and Verithrax isn't saying that we shouldn't have some imagination in a title, just that Ur'Snuggler Nymerya, Raezon's favourite strawberry (to pull an example out of thin air)... isn't terribly appropriate.

The problem with Archbishop of course, is that for centuries it's been a male only rank.. so it just sounds weird on a woman.
Nymerya2006-01-17 16:12:48
That's why I chose the prefix I did. Ashar and Nok wouldn't let me be an 'Archbishopess'.

Iridiel2006-01-17 17:19:45
Oh, like Glomdoring Queen of Night applied to Etanru?
Nyla2006-01-17 18:06:02
QUOTE(Laysus @ Jan 13 2006, 04:58 PM)
The klingons managed it alright.
Edit: Plus you've now opened yourself up for a lot of jokes about how you've not progressed past the monosyllabic.
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WTF is a Klingon?
Nymerya2006-01-17 18:13:25
=O!

HEATHEN.
Daganev2006-01-17 18:52:35
I'll agree with your point about titles not suppose to be silly... however in the ebonguard you get no prefix unless you are either a Warden or a Spirit Warden, and your suffix is a title about your personality. In a tribal kind of way.

Just think to those stereoptypical native american names like Sitting Shiva, or Running Hotfeet. Its a name that also tells of the personality. So while there is no official position of "Trail in the Rocks" (One of our Trackers who likes The Rock Totem spirit), It becomes a position and is a personality.
Unknown2006-01-17 18:59:48
QUOTE(Nymerya @ Jan 17 2006, 09:12 AM)
That's why I chose the prefix I did. Ashar and Nok wouldn't let me be an 'Archbishopess'.
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"Lady Archbishop" might work?

EDIT: Hm. I was able to google up the info that the feminine form of "bishop" is "episcopa", but I couldn't find it for Archbishop.
Verithrax2006-01-17 19:10:41
QUOTE(nyla @ Jan 17 2006, 03:06 PM)
WTF is a Klingon?
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I agree wholehearted with Nymerya here... HEATHEN!

Also, whoa, this must be the first time people agree with me. Yaaay. And yes, nothing wrong with Nymerya's title. The thing about good prefixes is that they can be used to address the person, like 'sir', 'dame', 'lady'. So people sucking up to me say 'High Druid' instead of calling me by my name. People who are scared of Nymerya call her 'High Priestess'. Using an adjective there is kind of bad form, those belong in the suffix.

EDIT: And there's nothing wrong with the Ebonguard's titling, either, specially since it's other people that are granting the title.
Unknown2006-01-17 19:29:29
QUOTE(daganev @ Jan 17 2006, 06:52 PM)
I'll agree with your point about titles not suppose to be silly... however in the ebonguard you get no prefix unless you are either a Warden or a Spirit Warden, and your suffix is a title about your personality.  In a tribal kind of way.

Just think to those stereoptypical native american names like Sitting Shiva, or Running Hotfeet.  Its a name that also tells of the personality.  So while there is no official position of "Trail in the Rocks" (One of our Trackers who likes The Rock Totem spirit), It becomes a position and is a personality.
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Yeah I dig that about the Ebonguard
Nokraenom2006-01-17 22:26:24
QUOTE(Nymerya @ Jan 17 2006, 10:12 AM)
That's why I chose the prefix I did. Ashar and Nok wouldn't let me be an 'Archbishopess'.
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When did I ever say that? blink.gif