Champion Artifacts

by Geb

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Geb2006-01-08 03:34:38
I suggest that the special properties on all champion artifacts be removed except for the rescue function.
Terenas2006-01-08 03:39:43
Yes, it'd balance single combat out so nicely. Especially with the removal of the champion helms and pets.
Murphy2006-01-08 03:41:36
cmon geb you can't just post here with no explanation or backup to your post, that results to NERF PLZ KTHXBAI

I would like to see all special things removed from champ items save the rescue function, and REPLACED with a utility artifact, like a gem of cloaking or better yet.....unable to be scried or located by any means.

If thats a bit rough, make them unable to be smelt, scanned for or anything exept for direct scry?

I don't know, something useful but not overpowering in 1v1 combat. Perhaps the ablitiy to pull up a prismatic barrier like trueheal without the trueheal effects, or something of good use.

Make them like cubixes? have a champion's haven? mmm

EDIT: champion artifacts are one of lusternia's original features, so removing them takes away from the originalitiy a little bit, hence a utility artifact rather than a direct 1v1 pvp measure.

EDIT2: As a joke, we should make them all have thunderclap, just to upset malicia a little more
Serrin2006-01-08 03:44:09
Could someone fill me in on what a Champion helm does? It seems a bit rude to ask in-game and noone is going to just offer the info out of the blue.
Murphy2006-01-08 03:45:23
champion helm gives a 75% affliction rate (if i could keep one thing about the helm, this would be it) small bonus to damage, medium bonus to wounding and small bonuses to speed and defence.
Malicia2006-01-08 03:47:59
QUOTE
EDIT2: As a joke, we should make them all have thunderclap, just to upset malicia a little more


angry.gif Bah, Murphy!


Champ helm is nuts, after the upgrade. They did next to nothing before though.

I agree with Geb.

Serrin2006-01-08 03:50:29
Wow... that's a pretty big boost indeed.
Murphy2006-01-08 03:50:30
for its purpose champ helm = amaru's artifact in terms of pvp usefulness for the beholder.

Amaru's pet has always been overpowered, i have suggested many times to nerf all champ items to one low base standard, but its a native lusternian thing and therefore should be kept as part of the game.

I want a utility artifact damnit, a champions haven or better stealthiness.


OHH GOD YES make the champ helms let you go into phase, nothing would be more scarier than knowning a champion could jump out and seek retirbution against you at any time!
Malicia2006-01-08 03:51:51
Phase would be so -hot-
Unknown2006-01-08 03:52:06
What the hell does stealthiness have to do with being a champion?

Don't you stand for the Guild publically, and defend people? Not jump them?
Murphy2006-01-08 03:54:14
Yes, you stand for the guild publically. Thing is you can't defend or seek vengence for a guildmate if someone goes:

scent
'oh noes, murphy in area'
teleport nexus/snortspore/hermit

Hence, having the abillity to appear at people via stelath makes for so much more of a fear factor.

guild champions for phase -rally- you'd get it to elryn if you got munsia out of champ
Terenas2006-01-08 03:55:12
QUOTE(Avaer @ Jan 8 2006, 03:52 AM)
What the hell does stealthiness have to do with being a champion?

Don't you stand for the Guild publically, and defend people? Not jump them?
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In case you can't tell, Murphy is either 1) posting drunk, or 2) just suggesting silly things to rouse up the public. tongue.gif
Unknown2006-01-08 03:56:43
QUOTE(terenas @ Jan 8 2006, 03:55 AM)
In case you can't tell, Murphy is either 1) posting drunk, or 2) just suggesting silly things to rouse up the public.  tongue.gif
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Ah.
Unknown2006-01-08 03:59:04
A boost to jumping peope would be bad, but a boost to defending them would be fine in my opinion.
Murphy2006-01-08 03:59:36
i'm doing murphystorming

posting up every idea that comes into my demented head and trying to justify each one.

I like stealthiness and the 'where did HE come from' effect. I also like utility artifacts.

I don't like having a useless champ artifact, since i had one for so long and it did nothing i'm still feeling underloved in that department.

Give us some cool champ arti effect, even if its a customised entrance and shout. I just like new shiny and useful things...even a once per hour ability to make you unable to be scried for 10 mins out of an hour.

EDIT: boost to defending people, i dunno perhaps each time you use 'defend' on a guildmate you get to be stealthed for the whole time, meh that's abusable.

Useful artifact that is good, but not overpowering 1v1
Penelope2006-01-08 04:03:20
If it weren't for Murphy's terrifying avater (I have a horrible fear of clowns) I'd agree with some of his ideas, but currently my brain is in panic mode and staring at It.
Malicia2006-01-08 04:04:55
Rescue is amazing all on its own and it'd be serving its most basic purpose- To save your guildmates. Goes over mono and you have balance/eq on arrival. Champ arties would be fine with just that.
Terenas2006-01-08 04:08:09
QUOTE(Penelope @ Jan 8 2006, 04:03 AM)
If it weren't for Murphy's terrifying avater (I have a horrible fear of clowns) I'd agree with some of his ideas, but currently my brain is in panic mode and staring at It.
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You're lucky you never saw some of Rameus's old clown avatars from Achaea's Forums then. smile.gif
Verithrax2006-01-08 04:11:29
My suggestion:

Replace Champion arties with Relics. Relics come in two types: Aligned, and unaligned.

Aligned Relics are specifict to one city/commune and are usually given out by a denizen of that city/commune: The Sword of Methrenton, a piece of Hart's antlers, a feather of Crow, etc. They can be bestowed by the city leader to any city member, and return to the denizen once the member dies or quits. Bestowing an artifact costs power from the city nexus.

Unaligned Relics can be stolen basically by taking them and dropping them on another city's reliquary. If the thief takes too long, they reset to their reliquary (So nobody can have a relic for himself). They are bestowed by city leaders in the usual way, but don't cost Power to bestow. Most relics would be guild-neutral; people of any archetypes would be able to use them.]

I think this would be more interesting, and would add more flavour, than champ arties.
Unknown2006-01-08 04:47:02
Maybe, but then we'd have one or two people who are incredibly buffed because of them. I like Geb's original suggestion.