Gods, Shrines, and Orders, Oh My!!!!

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Shiri2006-01-18 04:27:38
Yeah, I want unenemied to Fain already. angry.gif
Unknown2006-01-18 04:32:27
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 17 2006, 11:27 PM)
Yeah, I want unenemied to Fain already. angry.gif
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heh, a bunch of people are still enemied to fain from that ye-olde 9-hour Stewertsville influencing way back when, I do people my charactor Zenji was the only one to be unenemied, because he was something like lvl 10 at the time, and just exploring under innocence.

tends to be a trend around Lusternia, in a lot of orgs, if someone gets enemied they tend to stay enemied because:

1. they don't want to give the org a fee to unenemy them when they feel it was the orgs stupidity in the first place they were enemied, and.

2.the org doesn't want to enemy them because they are indeed a minor annoyance to them on occasion.
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Joli2006-01-18 04:33:52
I bet Shikari can skin people. That sounds awesome enough.
Shiri2006-01-18 04:41:56
Yeah, that's when I was enemied.
Unknown2006-01-18 06:35:23
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 18 2006, 05:27 AM)
Yeah, I want unenemied to Fain already. angry.gif
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Me too. tongue.gif

I was enemied so they could burn me on Celestia.. but doh, I've done my fair share of defiling since then I guess. You have to see enemy status as a chance rather than an annoyance - the chance to hit back without the consequence of getting enemied. sleep.gif

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Daganev2006-01-18 06:54:29
Viravain and Shikari need a joint order... I don't want to choose!
Unknown2006-01-18 07:04:01
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and ok I'll shut up now..
Joli2006-01-18 07:29:49
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 18 2006, 02:04 AM)
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and ok I'll shut up now..
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It'll be okie.
Iridiel2006-01-18 09:30:58
I am really happy for the poor Divines, that up to now had to act like the vendor in a shop, smiling and trying to avoid killing the ocasional offending customer that was there only to show how good was he and how much better than a Divine was he and how good RP is being "the Hero who ignores the Divines and makes them shutup in frustration". Took quite a bit away from atmosphere when Divines aren't allowed to act as a Divines and demand to be respected even by their enemies, specially considering they're all mature people able to decide where They're overdoing things or griefing the playerbase.


I am really very happy about this, probably will make Divines last longer active. Probably players will enjoy the RP oportunities as well (most of them) same as they've been enjoying Viravain RP just to name an example.
Aiakon2006-01-18 10:09:18
QUOTE(Shiri @ Jan 18 2006, 05:27 AM)
Yeah, I want unenemied to Fain already. angry.gif
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ditto for Hajamin. I don't actually have a clue why I was in the first place.
Nymerya2006-01-18 10:35:42
It looks as though I will never be unenemied to Hajamin, even though I DID NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH.

We got enemied due to misinformation, and even though we all protested, He would not unenemy us. It's annoying me greatly.
Unknown2006-01-18 10:44:11
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Jan 18 2006, 11:09 AM)
ditto for Hajamin. I don't actually have a clue why I was in the first place.
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Raiding Celestia, killing angels, assisting in the slaying of Supernals etc..

Additionally, it is also possible that you were enemied for being a member of the Nihilist leadership when all the leadership was enemied for using novices to defile shrines in Celest. (ditto for the ur'guard leadership)

If the later was the case.. you've had years upon ig years to contact Hajamin ig to sort this out.. no one ever did so the enemy status stands. :shrug:

EDIT: What I said goes for Nymerya as well. Nokraenom and Ixion at that time were told to contact Hajamin if they wanted this sorted out. Your guild leaders apparently didn't care. And now it's a bit late because Hajamin is gone. wink.gif
Nymerya2006-01-18 10:45:49
That's censor.gif. We did contact Him, and we were told noone would be unenemied because we had no right to negotiate for ourselves.

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Unknown2006-01-18 10:48:11
QUOTE(Nymerya @ Jan 18 2006, 11:45 AM)
That's censor.gif. We did contact Him, and we were told noone would be unenemied because we had no right to negotiate for ourselves.
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That's right. It was a matter that concerened the whole guild and as such only the GM's could have contacted Him: Nokraenom and Ixion.

All He wanted was for them to remove that from the novice requirements or add something so that novices weren't allowed to defile.. anything like that. That's why it was important to have the GM's negogiate as you for example could not have spoken for the whole guild.

Edit: Sandwich'd by the way. Maybe I should sign up for Shamarahs game. tongue.gif
Nymerya2006-01-18 10:55:49
They weren't ever novice requirements. Ever. We ask all our novices -not- to defile. And I think it's a pathetic reason, in all honesty. It was a way to force someone to apologise for something they didn't do.
Unknown2006-01-18 10:59:38
QUOTE(Nymerya @ Jan 18 2006, 11:55 AM)
They weren't ever novice requirements. Ever. We ask all our novices -not- to defile. And I think it's a pathetic reason, in all honesty. It was a way to force someone to apologise for something they didn't do.
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All -I- know is that at that time shrines were getting defiled. Not dusted, but defiled apparently by someone who was not enemied to Celest yet. I don't know the details but -something- was apparently going on.

Edit: And yeah that's my last post on this matter. No point taking it out on the forums. You never bothered to solve it ig so the status stands.
Ixion2006-01-18 11:08:15
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 18 2006, 05:48 AM)
That's right. It was a matter that concerened the whole guild and as such only the GM's could have contacted Him: Nokraenom and Ixion.

All He wanted was for them to remove that from the novice requirements or add something so that novices weren't allowed to defile.. anything like that. That's why it was important to have the GM's negogiate as you for example could not have spoken for the whole guild.

Edit: Sandwich'd by the way. Maybe I should sign up for Shamarahs game.  tongue.gif
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Sis, a lot of what you say is simply incorrect and/or based on assumptions.

For one, during the aforementioned times, we distinctly and specifically instructed our novices NOT TO DEFILE under any circumstance. No Ur'Guard novice scroll that has ever existed instructed or condoned novices to defile. Period.

I talked with Hajamin on this precise issue. He failed to provide a single example supporting your story of Ur'Guard novices defiling. I didn't want to be unenemied as I raided and such at that time, but I did successfully for the record show that those claims were false.

QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 18 2006, 05:59 AM)
All -I- know is  that at that time shrines were getting defiled. Not dusted, but defiled apparently by someone who was not enemied to Celest yet. I don't know the details but -something- was apparently going on.

Edit: And yeah that's my last post on this matter. No point taking it out on the forums. You never bothered to solve it ig so the status stands.
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I sure did.
Aiakon2006-01-18 11:46:24
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 18 2006, 11:44 AM)
Raiding Celestia, killing angels, assisting in the slaying of Supernals etc..

Additionally, it is also possible that you were enemied for being a member of the Nihilist leadership when all the leadership was enemied for using novices to defile shrines in Celest. (ditto for the ur'guard leadership)
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I'm not actually enemied to either Celest, Celestia, or the Celestines. Just so you know. You can leave me as a Hajamin enemy if you wish though.. because (since this is an OOC forum after all). It's only a matter of time before I do get enemied again... and I'm not terribly bothered either way.

(and I'm not a nihilist.. if that it what you were implying. I have -no- idea why everyone here seems to think I am.)
Unknown2006-01-18 11:48:55
QUOTE(Aiakon @ Jan 18 2006, 12:46 PM)
I'm not actually enemied to either Celest, Celestia, or the Celestines. Just so you know. You can leave me as a Hajamin enemy if you wish though.. because (since this is an OOC forum after all). It's only a matter of time before I do get enemied again... and I'm not terribly bothered either way.

(and I'm not a nihilist.. if that it what you were implying. I have -no- idea why everyone here seems to think I am.)
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Yeah I just remembered. I can look up the reason you got enemied for if you want, but if I recall correctly it had something to do with me dissolving your demesne on Celestia after an attack. Proof enough that you were involved in some way, either in defiling or attacking Celestia.
Aiakon2006-01-18 11:51:11
QUOTE(shadow @ Jan 18 2006, 12:48 PM)
Yeah I just remembered. I can look up the reason you got enemied for if you want, but if I recall correctly it had something to do with me dissolving your demesne on Celestia after an attack. Proof enough that you were involved in some way, either in defiling or attacking Celestia.
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really? how extraordinary. Look it up and PM me (unless I'm innocent of all charges whereupon you can start a thread: "A public apology to Aiakon" tongue.gif) .. this thread is getting a little off topic... what was it about anyway?