Wild Nodes + Influencing a Village

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Unknown2006-01-23 16:42:38
QUOTE(ferlas @ Jan 22 2006, 08:41 PM)
Erm say about 4 or 5 hours, Glomdoring seemed to be winning at the start but  then started to fade out as people logged off and celest and serenwilde took over.
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Sometimes I think that the village revolts are just a test on endurance. How long can you last? How long can you stay sane? Winner takes all!
Unknown2006-01-23 16:57:45
I'm certain that wasn't the longest influencing out there, but it was surely the most hotly contested/fullest. I've never seen a village more violent/filled with debates.

Xenthos was running around with his new boost from being Dark Marshall. whoa, I tell you, when 8 people jump in a room to debate/divert so someone doesn't sway a sentry then you know there are going to be problems, I ran out of bromides like halfway through and had to grab more, died a few times to the massive warrior groups as well (glomdoring had like a group of 9 warriors following Lyco around, and celest had a similar group too, and you knew when they met up because the deathsense started spamming) Lazul even poped in for a moment to enter the massive battle. Demenses ran rampid through the town as well, celest at least went through 3 aquamancers, serenwilde had around 4 druids hoping around trying to clear taint at varius times, glomdoring went through at least 2 blacktalon demenses during the course, and even Kaervas hoped in and tainted most of the place for awhile there.

to some up: What an influence! mf_swordfight.gif wounded.gif mf_swordfight.gif
Xenthos2006-01-23 18:03:17
QUOTE(Wesmin @ Jan 23 2006, 12:57 PM)
Xenthos was running around with his new boost from being Dark Marshall.
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I had fun with the mess of Serens at Ethilwen near the end. By then it was kind of a lost cause, but was still amusing watching so many shatter themselves while I diverted her repeatedly. happy.gif Of course, this had nothing to do with being Marshall.
Kaervas2006-01-23 19:08:43
I tainted about one room and never held a demesne in there. tongue.gif
Shorlen2006-01-23 21:53:16
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jan 23 2006, 02:03 PM)
I had fun with the mess of Serens at Ethilwen near the end.  By then it was kind of a lost cause, but was still amusing watching so many shatter themselves while I diverted her repeatedly.  happy.gif  Of course, this had nothing to do with being Marshall.
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Being marshall gives you a nice boost to influencing power during revolts, I think. Nejii always called it 'CR8.' You're one of the best debaters I've seen though smile.gif Remind me never to play rock-paper-scissors with you tongue.gif

I logged on after being awake for 20+ hours to check messages before bed. Hadn't been on in three days. My messages were all vial decay messages, and I found out there was a revolt going on. Fun combination biggrin.gif

The raids on Rockholm during the influencing was lame though, but every group does it including us, so whatever sad.gif Wisping Rakor into what I thought was a wisp trap while undeffed from dying in Southard and then dying again because I was just sitting there waiting for the non-existant guards to start attacking was perhaps the dumbest thing I've done recently.
Xenthos2006-01-23 22:04:40
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Jan 23 2006, 05:53 PM)
Being marshall gives you a nice boost to influencing power during revolts, I think. Nejii always called it 'CR8.' You're one of the best debaters I've seen though smile.gif Remind me never to play rock-paper-scissors with you tongue.gif
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I think it gives some to NPCs, but it doesn't help at all in debating as far as I know (which is what I was talking about). I wish I got super-Divert or something, which resets it from willful to normal. I *hate* how we got so many of those dwarves so overinfluenced that they wouldn't swear to ANYBODY because of how willful they were. ranting.gif
Shayle2006-01-23 22:34:37
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jan 23 2006, 05:04 PM)
I think it gives some to NPCs, but it doesn't help at all in debating as far as I know (which is what I was talking about).  I wish I got super-Divert or something, which resets it from willful to normal.  I *hate* how we got so many of those dwarves so overinfluenced that they wouldn't swear to ANYBODY because of how willful they were.  ranting.gif
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Seconded... sad.gif
Laysus2006-01-23 22:49:17
Well, there's two ways:

One, don't divert it so much.

Two, lose to it so it goes to smug then resets eventually.
Rakor2006-01-23 22:59:37
QUOTE(Shorlen)
The raids on Rockholm during the influencing was lame though, but every group does it including us, so whatever sad.gif Wisping Rakor into what I thought was a wisp trap while undeffed from dying in Southard and then dying again because I was just sitting there waiting for the non-existant guards to start attacking was perhaps the dumbest thing I've done recently.


Hey, you're the ones that made the convenient pathway from Southgard to Rockholm, I couldn't resist. And yeah, heh - that wasn't much of a wisp trap. I saw you were the only one there so I dragged Airees along and let myself get wisped but then everyone showed up, and guards got me. Then a little later (after you enemied him) guards got Airees. Fun.

I went back after I got done praying but when I killed the dwarves I started getting code errors so I left.
Shiri2006-01-24 01:21:14
Xenthos is INSANE to debate. I got him 8 times, with wins and draws, then I lost ONCE, almost died and he was back on full to divert.

>_< >_< >_< Worse than Daevos.
Shorlen2006-01-24 05:47:48
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jan 23 2006, 06:04 PM)
I think it gives some to NPCs, but it doesn't help at all in debating as far as I know (which is what I was talking about).  I wish I got super-Divert or something, which resets it from willful to normal.  I *hate* how we got so many of those dwarves so overinfluenced that they wouldn't swear to ANYBODY because of how willful they were.  ranting.gif
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I hope some envoy suggests changes to divert sad.gif In it's current form, now that so many people have it, village influencing went from fun to tedious / boring / stupid. In order to sway a single villager in 'endgame' (10+ people per side with divert) village influencing, espeically peaceful influencing, you have to debate out EVERY SINGLE hostile person with divert, or be lucky enough to notice a villager is up before anyone else does.

When Lusternia becomes even more popular, you'll have the 'endgame' scenerio of one non-influencer person from each org in each room with a named denizen, and the influencers teleporting or rushing in via other means the moment a denizen becomes influenceable, resulting in a lot of boring nothing.

Divert, like many other skills in Lusternia, is simply not a scalable skill that takes into account more than five people having it per side, in my opinion. Other non-scalable skills, like Thunderclap and Demenses, have been brought up enough in other threads tongue.gif Thankfully, chanting was nerfed to be scalable - I hope Divert is too sometime soon pray.gif
Xenthos2006-01-24 05:55:23
QUOTE(Shorlen @ Jan 24 2006, 01:47 AM)
When Lusternia becomes even more popular, you'll have the 'endgame' scenerio of one non-influencer person from each org in each room with a named denizen, and the influencers teleporting or rushing in via other means the moment a denizen becomes influenceable, resulting in a lot of boring nothing.
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It's already mostly at that stage... I know of at least two organizations that make a habit of camping in as many rooms as they can with sanctuary, and then teleporting / moonbeaming around (with moonbeam costing no power, it's amazingly useful for this especially in an enemy demesne). Just a few more and village influencing is going to hit rock-bottom. sleep.gif

Edit: And I say this for everyone involved. I don't see how this can be fun for *anyone*.
Shorlen2006-01-24 06:22:17
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Jan 24 2006, 01:55 AM)
Edit:  And I say this for everyone involved.  I don't see how this can be fun for *anyone*.
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There's a reason I stopped playing Lusternia so much tongue.gif Village influencing was the reason I played at first, but it just isn't what it used to be. So tedious now sad.gif