That's a rather flawed question. The honeycakes don't work just as this magic injection doesn't exist to replace CPR.

Exactly.

And the honeycakes can't be used right now as far as I know because they're broken, and nobody's put much effort into getting them fixed because they'd rather just kill fae instead.

The difference is that the Kelpies are influenced by either Jeitara or Lanikai depending on who is empowered. While the Moondancers are free to support either as it doesn't harm the other side, it doesn't actually "hurt" them.

If I have to explain why Night and Moon are opposed well then, you need to do some more homework before continuing.

To what youve said Narsrim. I said they are Fae Champions. Fae as far as Im concerned. Moon, Night, Stag, all the other Spirits? Fae Lords. When I find the right quote Ill post it.

Edit: And Narsrims right about Mugwumps not supposedly liking Merians, the Merians of the Empire did something to their ancestral home of Balach Swamp and that drove them out.

Excuse me while I use my coder privs to fix the bug. yes, I'm sorry... I havent' been putting as much time into coding again - my bad.

Ah. I think I'd better just keep my nose out of an argument I know absolutely nothing about (having fun though).

It is a bug or is it a ritual/event waiting to happen?

It's called, gasp, RPing by asking your Avatars about ways to strengthen the honeycakes to actually work or some such. I'm sure you could figure something out if you could be bothered. It's not a large priority because nobody really cares about it, just takes the easy path and kills the fae that they are sworn to "protect" as you yourself say over and over.

Bug.

They are already supposed to work.

Been there, done that. Have you? And I want answer since you are bringing it up. The cakes are supposed to work.

EDIT:

In fact, I know we've asked twice and each time, they were supposed to work.

I brought it up to Viravain once.. she told me that the fae are fickle.. and that was that.

And as such, my magical "injection" isn't possible so I have to uses the means available to me to best secure, aid, and protect the Fae.

I don't know if you've ever spoken to any of them, but the Fae fear the shadows. That's why Night has to literally ENSLAVE them because they will not abide by Mother Night on their free will.

As you can imagine, we view this as quite important when it comes to releasing them for the torture (and it is torture as they often scream out in pain when summoned ,etc).

Yes, though only once as Xen doesn't really care much about it. The Fae aren't a huge concern to him, they exist but he doesn't really have any connection to them. He has a fair bit of respect for them in general due to his roots, but all that really means is that he doesn't kill them unless they attack him first.

That's wonderful. What was said and by who?

It was a few of us speaking with Lhiannan, who never responded. If I had cared to keep it up, would have eventually spoken with her at a time when she did respond, and could have tried RPing out some kind of solution (ie, an IC way of bringing it to the attention of the admins and saying it's important to us that it's fixed). We didn't press it, you didn't press it, and it doesn't work.

I could make an argument that the fae fear the shadows because they know that you're going to kill them...

Besides, they scream in pain when being summoned, they scream in pain when dying... is the cure truly worse than the disease? Hm... "But they're free!" you say. Free to be killed again the next time you don't like how they look or act? Mmhm.

So basically, you made a snide little comment about roleplaying a solution when you haven't even gotten a response unlike others who have, but you still felt the need to try and condescend? Damn, that takes guts.

And while you can make arguments, I've spoken with the Moon Avatars. I've spoken with Fae... and they were so afraid of those shadows (hell, they won't even ENTER Ethereal Glomdoring on their own) they wanted anything but to be enslaved.

Furthermore, your view on this situation is rather amusing if you consider real life situations. Look at other situations where people were enslaved or captured. Many die trying to escape, realizing that death was better than the misery they were forced to endure each passing minute of each hour of each day. We offer the Fae a means to escape, to be free, and to return to a place where they can exist peacefully and under protection.

And finally, the Fae who enter Ethereal Serenwilde are safe. I invade Ethereal Glomdoring each IC month to scan for Daughters of Night and save Fae. When was the last time Glomdoring did such in Ethereal Serenwilde? Try never. There is no endless pain. There is only such situation if they opt to venture back out into danger in Faethorn.

Sounds like they're trying to escape captivity to me!

As to my comments about roleplaying it out-- once again, the Fae don't concern me very much. I don't really care if it works or not, so I tried it once and let it go. If they're such a big deal to you, you should be trying to work with Albion every IC month trying to work on a solution.

Do you? (As you said there have only been two conversations, it would appear not)

And by the way, your comments about Moon/Night not being fae would be incorrect. Lisaera has posted it somewhere on the forums (not sure which post, but it was another thread similar in topic to this) but I've got confirmation from an ex-member of her order that she considers them Fae Lords. Ah well.

No, the mother/maiden/crone + barghest/redcap/slaugh are Fae not Moon/Night. Furthermore, Fae Lords are not exactly Fae. There are HUGE and VAST differences.

Thank you, just thank you.

... Narsrim stop trying to use reality to justify your views on the pains and sufferings of fictional faeries. It's inherently flawed. If.. somewhat comic.