Unknown2006-02-09 07:53:01
QUOTE(Vix @ Feb 9 2006, 03:15 AM) 255926
I was wearing nothing but that tawdry outfit (and my pack which I don't think has any effect on influencing). How much more poor do I have to be?
Try influencing in nothing but underwear?
Unknown2006-02-09 08:07:26
QUOTE(Elcyrion @ Feb 9 2006, 02:53 AM) 256110
Try influencing in nothing but underwear?
As sexy as that is.. I don't think it'll make much of a difference.
Now if she did it on her kn... you're a bad influence!
Unknown2006-02-09 08:13:28
but it's the same game mechanic, or should be.
Edit:if one part of it works the other should as well, it's good to look poor for begging and royal for every single other thing.
Edit:if one part of it works the other should as well, it's good to look poor for begging and royal for every single other thing.
Shorlen2006-02-09 09:24:03
I would very much love for the effect of clothing to be more noticable - in all my testing, I didn't notice a micron of difference in speed, and the damage taken didn't seem to change THAT much with varied clothing, just with varied jewelry.
Verithrax2006-02-09 15:35:17
This reminds me... How come you don't get an advantage with Seduction when influencing naked?
Xenthos2006-02-09 15:40:35
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Feb 9 2006, 10:35 AM) 256210
This reminds me... How come you don't get an advantage with Seduction when influencing naked?
Clothes can be far more seductive.
Verithrax2006-02-09 16:51:02
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Feb 9 2006, 01:40 PM) 256212
Clothes can be far more seductive.
As a tailor, I feel I have to agree.
Unknown2006-02-09 17:38:29
QUOTE(KidHendrix @ Feb 9 2006, 03:07 AM) 256112
As sexy as that is.. I don't think it'll make much of a difference.
Now if she did it on her kn... you're a bad influence!
::wag her finger:: Hehe.
QUOTE(Xenthos @ Feb 9 2006, 10:40 AM) 256212
Clothes can be far more seductive.
I'm not a tailor, but I agree.
Richter2006-02-09 19:06:31
Some people are just ugly, no wonder seduction won't work better that way.
Sidra2006-02-13 05:51:13
Ook. I just did some testing. And I've come to the conclusion that something is definitely off with the formula for begging.
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma. Virtuoso Influence. Looking nondescript.
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing No Jewelry.
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -304
First Supplication: -202
First Wheedling: -217
Second Begging: -348
Second Supplication: -230
Second Wheedling: -265
Third Begging: -367
Third Supplication: -413
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2346
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -327
First Supplication: -304
First Wheedling: -256
Second Begging: -308
Second Supplication: -377
Second Wheedling: -230
Third Begging: -384
Third Supplication: -287
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2473
---
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma Virtuoso Influence. Looking Well-to-do
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing No Jewelry
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -284
First Supplication: -202
First Wheedling: -194
Second Begging: -374
Second Supplication: -265
Second Wheedling: -290
Third Begging: -604
Third Supplication: -368
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2581
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -273
First Supplication: -291
First Wheedling: -264
Second Begging: -314
Second Supplication: -236
Second Wheedling: -304
Third Begging: -262
Third Supplication: -413
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2357
---
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma. Virtuoso Influence. Looking Prosperous
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing 1 Piece of Jewelry
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -253
First Supplication: -291
First Wheedling: -276
Second Begging: -357
Second Supplication: -233
Second Wheedling: -345
Third Begging: -410
Third Supplication: -256
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2421
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -279
First Supplication: -184
First Wheedling: -222
Second Begging: -299
Second Supplication: -262
Second Wheedling: -282
Third Begging: -227
Third Supplication: -243
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 1992 (there may be a screw-up here on my part with one of the individual damages dealt, but the rest of the numbers still show the point)
---
Now.. is it just me.. or is something a bit off with those numbers? Despite the fact that begging is supposed to be easier, even with such a drastic different in appearance, there was no difference in number of attacks, and no difference in damage.
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma. Virtuoso Influence. Looking nondescript.
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing No Jewelry.
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -304
First Supplication: -202
First Wheedling: -217
Second Begging: -348
Second Supplication: -230
Second Wheedling: -265
Third Begging: -367
Third Supplication: -413
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2346
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -327
First Supplication: -304
First Wheedling: -256
Second Begging: -308
Second Supplication: -377
Second Wheedling: -230
Third Begging: -384
Third Supplication: -287
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2473
---
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma Virtuoso Influence. Looking Well-to-do
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing No Jewelry
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -284
First Supplication: -202
First Wheedling: -194
Second Begging: -374
Second Supplication: -265
Second Wheedling: -290
Third Begging: -604
Third Supplication: -368
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2581
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -273
First Supplication: -291
First Wheedling: -264
Second Begging: -314
Second Supplication: -236
Second Wheedling: -304
Third Begging: -262
Third Supplication: -413
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2357
---
Target: Brother of Enlightenment
Relevant Info: 19 Charisma. Virtuoso Influence. Looking Prosperous
Max Ego: 4265
Wearing 1 Piece of Jewelry
--- Test 1 ---
First Begging: -253
First Supplication: -291
First Wheedling: -276
Second Begging: -357
Second Supplication: -233
Second Wheedling: -345
Third Begging: -410
Third Supplication: -256
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 2421
---
--- Test 2 ---
First Begging: -279
First Supplication: -184
First Wheedling: -222
Second Begging: -299
Second Supplication: -262
Second Wheedling: -282
Third Begging: -227
Third Supplication: -243
---
Total Ego Damage Dealt: 1992 (there may be a screw-up here on my part with one of the individual damages dealt, but the rest of the numbers still show the point)
---
Now.. is it just me.. or is something a bit off with those numbers? Despite the fact that begging is supposed to be easier, even with such a drastic different in appearance, there was no difference in number of attacks, and no difference in damage.
Shorlen2006-02-13 06:52:24
QUOTE(Sidra @ Feb 13 2006, 12:51 AM) 257519
(tests)
Hmm - perhaps borrow a large amount of jewelry and test it again? Clothing doesn't seem to impact much, and one piece of jewelry isn't enough to really overcome the randomness factor.