Warriors are underpowered?

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Xavius2006-02-09 05:05:22
QUOTE(Shryke @ Feb 8 2006, 10:05 PM) 255993

Mitbulls, just because there is a bandwagon doesn't mean you have to jump on... I have a rune against fire, which hurts you bad, and you are meant to have low health.. Be quiet.


Which is not an excuse to ignore the balance issues here. First off, she noted that you hit her once before that behead. Two-strike beheads aren't completely unknown to us, and that's an issue. One-strike damage kills are stupid.

Also, for the record, her health is only 400 less than mine. I'm level 76, and 10 con is very standard for magical races.

Be quiet.
Shryke2006-02-09 05:12:05
Pshhh, didn't hinder at ALL, Kurt attacked the head too it appears, and he has WEAKNESS TO FIRE LEVEL 3.. My 350 credit investment better be doing somthing (on the note of damage)
Also-Made no use of stancing (decreases assault wounds) probably didn't have your hood raised... And yes, my wounding is insane, just like every other champ..
Unknown2006-02-09 05:17:43
We tested his wounding later on after that, it ranges 1,300-1,500 on an unparried/unstanced bodypart. That's on an assault.
Murphy2006-02-09 05:24:01
That is what a 2h spec should be doing on an assault. I probably do simalir to that in a double crush combo, maybe less (this is on fullplate too)
Asarnil2006-02-09 05:24:04
Thats about how much I do on a double crush with hammers (or was it flails I forget). Murphy does about 2200 for the same power cost.
Shryke2006-02-09 05:25:34
So in conclusion... Nerf Murphy first! ninja.gif
Just kidding, it really isn't that bad.. Ask Munsia and Narsrim, they can handle the wounding/huge size/retarded writhe time/enlarge...
Murphy2006-02-09 05:32:39
i do not do 1100 wounds per crush to warriors.

Depending on the crappiness of someone's armour, i sometimes hit 1k against robe wearers but certainly not against plate
Narsrim2006-02-09 05:35:25
QUOTE(Shryke @ Feb 9 2006, 12:12 AM) 256020

Pshhh, didn't hinder at ALL, Kurt attacked the head too it appears, and he has WEAKNESS TO FIRE LEVEL 3.. My 350 credit investment better be doing somthing (on the note of damage)
Also-Made no use of stancing (decreases assault wounds) probably didn't have your hood raised... And yes, my wounding is insane, just like every other champ..


It shouldn't be necessary to have to have rebound up permanently and permanently hinder someone to not die in one to two hits - end of story.
Murphy2006-02-09 05:36:56
it should be necessary when you only have 2.4k health and a l3 weakness to the elemental type of damage.

I'm sorry you need at LEAST 3k if not 3.5k to not get nailed by damage, problem is solved by levelling up.

also narsrim notice there was no use of parry or stancing.
Xavius2006-02-09 05:39:03
And what, pray tell, can the rest of the world kill an unprepared person with before they have a chance to get their bearings and adjust two or three settings in, oh, four seconds?
Narsrim2006-02-09 05:41:42
Has anyone noticed that when someone dies to an assault or crush, Murphy's always brings into question stancing and parrying as if it actually mattered?

Seriously, cut the bs. Ciaran goes around bragging to me "I'll just 2 hit behead using assault your later." I'm not joking - he's told Malicia, Munsia, Mitch, and me this at least twice along with a slew of other people... and then you have the nerve to bring up parrying. God, your bias couldn't be anymore clear.
Saran2006-02-09 05:47:41
even though my closed-thread sense seems to be tingling (or maybe it's just cause someones finally turned the air-con on)

This does seem quite unfair, Abrael takes me from near full health (within 400 because i check that i wasn't autosipping) but atleast he had me pinned (or whatever) I really think warriors should either have to have someone pinned, at half health or have a long "cast" time before a so called instant kill.

Also you might note that Mitbulls said the robes hood was up. but that could be misunderstanding.

Could i ask for a list of every skill considered either an instant or near-instant kill with their requirements?

I know of Toadcurse which requires we get you down to half mana, which against anyone with a good stock of mana vials and a half decent sipper you won't see to often. It's also 8 power

come on you know you want to compare behead to that
Shryke2006-02-09 05:49:33
Ahem? I'll just two assault behead you? First of all, I don't believe I brag to you.. (perhaps a long time ago) Also, I never have gotten a behead on you, and I don't talk like that. I've challenged Malicia to a duel, but bragged to her? No. Munsia, we chat it up a lot, she talks down to me, so I talk back to her. I don't go around saying Oh I'll behead you blah blah blah. I do have a fixation with TRYING to behead people, but going around bragging about it? Not me.

:Edit: I never talk to mitch, never have! I've gotten a behead on him, but that's just BS, didn't gloat either! Quit BSing Nars
Narsrim2006-02-09 05:50:34
QUOTE(Shryke @ Feb 9 2006, 12:49 AM) 256040

Ahem? I'll just two assault behead you? First of all, I don't believe I brag to you.. (perhaps a long time ago) Also, I never have gotten a behead on you, and I don't talk like that. I've challenged Malicia to a duel, but bragged to her? No. Munsia, we chat it up a lot, she talks down to me, so I talk back to her. I don't go around saying Oh I'll behead you blah blah blah. I do have a fixation with TRYING to behead people, but going around bragging about it? Not me.


You do it all the time, and yes you did tell me that I'd die in two assaults the first time we sparred (you even posted the log).
Shryke2006-02-09 05:52:10
Not IC...! Also I don't brag and crap like that, quit trying to smear me that's utter Bs, check my edit up there... I DON'T talk to mitch, and Malicia.. I told her I beheaded Amaru, that's all, I challenged her to a duel as well, get off of it already
Xavius2006-02-09 05:52:18
Hey, remember those disclaimers we had to stick on Kurt's posts?

Don't let Ciaran's new position throw you. He still doesn't speak for all of us.
Shryke2006-02-09 05:52:59
Ugh, that's not what I say Xavius... This is BS.
:edit: I probably talked a lot of crap back when Lyco was around, but I don't do that anymore, that isn't my personality... arrgh, frustrating glare.gif
Narsrim2006-02-09 05:53:54
QUOTE(Shryke @ Feb 9 2006, 12:52 AM) 256042

Not IC...! Also I don't brag and crap like that, quit trying to smear me that's utter Bs, check my edit up there... I DON'T talk to mitch, and Malicia.. I told her I beheaded Amaru, that's all, I challenged her to a duel as well, get off of it already


You told me right before the spar. I specifically remember it.

However, we could put your money where your mouth is. I'll gladly test in the arena and let you assault my head twice in a row. We'll post the log in this forum. Up for it?
Unknown2006-02-09 05:55:55
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Feb 9 2006, 05:41 AM) 256035

Has anyone noticed that when someone dies to an assault or crush, Murphy's always brings into question stancing and parrying as if it actually mattered?

Seriously, cut the bs. Ciaran goes around bragging to me "I'll just 2 hit behead using assault your later." I'm not joking - he's told Malicia, Munsia, Mitch, and me this at least twice along with a slew of other people... and then you have the nerve to bring up parrying. God, your bias couldn't be anymore clear.



From what I've noticed it does matter. Here's an example: When we first started to test his wounding I was stancing my head (Keep in mind Ciaran is an orlach with pureblade trans), and forgot to unstance when Ciaran assaulted at my head and -completely missed-. I only have Virtuoso combat. Of course, I don't doubt this is a 1/50 occasion, but it shows stancing and parrying do have an effect. Thus the "partially parries" messages, so forth..which I -have- gotten from better opponents when lunging, the partial parry reduces damage and wounding done.

While you're right in saying on scales of larger numbers like the 2,000 at the higher end of critical wounding, parrying and stancing might not have an extreme effect, that's like saying 'screw criticals, I only get a critical so often anyway'
Shryke2006-02-09 05:56:51
Another day, sure... I don't brag about that sorta crap though Narsrim. I don't see why you're trying to pin that on me anyway... Does it pertain to the post much? I would like to think I could get a behead on you if you didn't hinder me at ALL, but the truth is, you can hinder me. I believe I don't puff up much except for when Munsia tries to call me a joke etc. I probably haven't said anything but Nice hindering to you for the last OOC month...