Good luck, Rowena is all like: Mother Night save me! *shadows surround Rowena and take her away*

As it was already quoted from an IC source (and no Elryn I don't mind) I'll reiterate what I said in-game: Undeath isn't actually about when something is manifesting in the living world as why.

I'll try to simplify it a bit, you could view it as the dead world and the living world. If you are living and are in the living world, that is natural and correct, if you are dead and in the dead world, that is also natural and correct. The cycle of life will no doubt carry you through both many times (or at least your reincarnated soul), if you are dead and you are in the living world temporarily for a specific purpose, that is all right, if you are living and in the dead world temporarily for a specific purpose, that is all right. If you are dead and in the living world indefinitely that is wrong, and is commonly known as undeath, if you are living and in the dead world indefinitely that is wrong.

When I say "correct" and "wrong" above I of course mean from the point of view of someone that has an interest in keeping the natural cycle going as it should, necromancers and such wouldn't feel that way.

As a side-note, undeath and the Taint of course aren't the same thing, the only link between the two is that the Taint can be used to cause undeath.

Hmm, that makes more sense than it did originally.

Urlach would poke His tongue out at you for that!

And Narsrim - you do come off heavy handed a lot of the times, though I think you have settled down a lot from what you used to be like. Its either that or my Munsrim immunity levels have gone through the roof . Though I must admit it was fun to sit there and watch people on CT go "Huh, what are you talking about Asarnil" when you pooka forced me to rant against Rahvin.

Considering that Tsuki's player just found out ten minutes ago in random conversation with Zenji's player in the kitchen, Tsuki doesn't know. No, Tsuki didn't even know about the gaining amnesty from Paavik either.

If she did know, she'd be concerned, wary, and keep a close eye on Shorlen after expressing such concerns, for the same reasons she warns novice Moondancers why they might not want to bond with Night and Crow in Totems ... but after warning the novices, she also says the choice whether to bond with them or not is ultimately up to them and advises them to always be cautious and keep the spirits' current nature in mind if they do decide to do so. Tsuki herself has, in all the years since stepping from the Portal at 16, bonded to Crow perhaps twice and bonded to Night less than half a dozen times ... one or two of which were after the switch to the Wyrd to see if the message was changed. Last I checked, it wasn't ... and was still something about her "tainted presence" there which, in case it was supposed to be changed with the coming of the Wyrd, I actually made a bug-note about it. Don't say I haven't been trying to let Glom have the Wyrd!

And Shorlen isn't Lisae, so he can pick justification that it wouldn't do for a Lisae to claim I suppose.


Yay, I understood the right thing! Good to have confirmation, since I missed the discussion in the Order.

And all this discussion is potentially helpful for me regarding something Tsuki's working on. I'm going to have to take time later to read the thread more closely.

I remember when dominate came out and people on Serenwilde CT were saying crazy things, that was great! Now they just blame that, and misstells on astral insanity... where have the good times gone?


ok, back on topic...

Daiurchi paired with Angkrag would be a misstake, so I hope that never happens, not because we want angkrag, but because we -don't- want angkrag, even if we -could- take it, which we can't, we don't want it, and that's the point.

You know, I think Angkrag is truly unique in one regard. It is the only village that some organizations simply do NOT want, and will never try for. Even if there were no consequences on the Rockholm/Southgard front, Serenwilde and Celest will never try for Angkrag. Even Magnagora would gladly go for Rockholm/Southgard if there were no Angkrag reprecussions.

I find that really odd.

I wouldn't say Celest would never go for Angkrag. We went for Acknor with the intent of changing it.

Angkrag seems ripe for salvation.

I guess. Hajamin actually lead a discussion at one point with Celest (I was invited). He pretty much told them that since Acknor isn't totally tainted, it was worth while to save it. The orcs, though a great deal of love and light from Celest, could change. He said that was far less likely with Angkrag if not bordering on impossible - so yes, I guess it may be worth a shot... but that seems like a rather expensive/consuming investment if the payoff is so slim.

Yeah, I wouldn't personally think it was worth the effort but I wouldn't say never.

Besides, its a RP choice if an organization decides not to influence a village. That shouldn't be a concern of the administration.

What should be a concern is the severe difficulty anyone not of glomdoring or magnagora have in having any sort of reasonable chance of influencing it. I don't think anyone can pretend that it's reasonable to suggest that an organization should need to go through another organization (who would want the village for themselves) in order to be able to influence a village.

Yes, it's possible. But it's also possible that all the organizations in the Basin will cease hostilities, divide the villages between each other and live happily ever after.

I find the many inacuracies about glomdoring politics and motivations quite humours... But as I'm out of the loop in many things right now, I'll just assume that your both right.