Basically, I see three different long-term effects from this:

1 - It'll cut down raids immensely, except in regards to Magnagora raiding Rockholm/Southgard (as they will always take Angkrag, as it is much more attached to them in terms of RP) and Celest/Seren raiding Angkrag (as they can never take it anyway).

2 - It'll ensure one org never has too much power, unless they send delegates to seperate villages, which would be quite hard unless the org in question was massive. *coughserenwildecough*

3 - It'll make orgs more isolationist, as they will be trying to block people from other orgs from doing comm quests in their villages.

However, we'll also see one village being peaced while another is violent. So you could still battle over both villages at once. Delport is peaced, so you don't need your fighters there - you can send them to Stewartsville.

I definitely don't see it as stagnating, especially since it also depends on times. Its very possible for that "Celest/Mag and Seren/Glom" split to be worth nothing. If Glom isn't going after Stewartsville, then Seren gets it in 30 minutes and is able to run into Delport with a very decent possibility to win.

Actually I think that we might see things like, celest and seren going for one village. Mag and glom make an agreement then you possibly have three orgs going for one and one going for the other

Ptsh we couldn't pin you down, and it was only a couple of us that came after you. You could have killed Laneth easily if you tried, and other than him it was mostly Elryn, Imbrawn (who did die to your demesne I think) and then Shorlen. From memory, anyway.

But, back on topic, thanks for making these changes, I look forward ot seeing how it goes. I knew something was up with the villages when Serenwilde randomly had an unnamed village swear to use yesterday .

Yes, that was amusing.

Nejii seemed perfectly content with Serenwilde's new village of phantoms when I congratulated him on a job well done.

Shorlen and I had both independently come to the conclusion that they were ninjas rather than phantoms, so we were (of course) flattered by their pledge of allegiance.

Phantoms == semi IC. Ninja's != IC. Hmph!

Are villages going to stay at the same speed of revolt as they are now if unaffected by governmental style?

Because, as I've said many times and I know others agree with me, it'd be really nice if they were made faster.

Also, what's going to happen to the Conquest structure? Is it going to stay or be removed/replaced?

I wasn't talking about IC!

It will be interesting to see how it goes, and what reasoning was set behind the pairs.

I think I'd prefer that Dairuchi went up with Acknor/Estelbar, because otherwise that pairing is clearly going to be Celest/Seren for Estelbar vs Mag for Acknor (and who knows what Glom will do).

It sounds to me like A. Communes can't choose government type, so that would be fairly pointless.
B. the amount that killing and doing comm quests affects the influencing will be too minor to really mean anything, yet RP wise will be major enough to ensure that there are tight lockdowns on villages. I think doing comm quests should mean more than government type. That is, if you do the comm quest as often as possible it would be double the affects of your government type.

Celest has taken Acknor before. Don't be so quick to assume everything is going to be predictable.

Don't be silly a new village is opening soon that will pair with Daruchi

I'm afraid to think what would its denizens be like, seeing the latest trend.

Good! They're a major source of grief and annoyance, and they're hard to explain ICly - You were killing our villagers last week, now we pledge allegiance to you! Either make them significant enough to actually harm the raided org, or make them useless. Or, add denizens to a village that aren't village denizens but serve as raid targets - Maybe governors or administrators or missionaries, not necessarily along with the administrator idea I posted in the other village influence thread.

And Magnagora has taken Estelbar.

However, given a choice between them, I think we know which way Serenwilde is going to go. As with Magnagora. If Celest had to choose between controlling Estelbar or Acknor, (and I don't profess to know what their priorities actually are) I suspect they would also prefer Estelbar after the debacle of controlling Acknor.

Sure, at some point in the future Serenwilde might go... screw the furrikin, we want those orc slavers to be part of our empire. Thankyou for bringing up that good point.

I just have the same concerns that someone else brought up - there are some obvious choices, at least for our nation. I can see Serenwilde always focusing on Rockholm, Estelbar, and Shanthmark. That's not a bad thing, and we can certainly occasionally try for other ones if we have enough force, but I can see why stagnation could become a problem.

As can I. When Acknor last revolted, we were told don't worry about it, let them have it. I think one or two people (Munsia I think was one) went just to bash and wreak havoc, but other than that, we didn't lift a finger to get Acknor. Except for the small band of us that attempted to rescue all of the dear little Furrikin . I can really see stagnation as a major issue.

The Delport/Stewards and Paavik/Shanthmark revolts will be interesting, given how everyone wants them.

Acknor and Angkrag will stay Magnagora, though that's always been that way.

What it will mean, though, is that Mag won't have much of a way to claim Estelbar, leaving it to the other 3. Southgard and Rockholm won't change much, since Mag's always been out of them. Best that will happen is that it'll be VERY hard for one nation to claim two mining villages.


As such, I really don't see the extra stagnation involved. The only real 'sure thing' here that wasn't present before is that Serenwilde and Celest will argue over Estelbar while Mag cleans up Acknor and comes in just to harrass*. The villages will either split between nations more or else one nation *coughSerenwildecough* succeeds in claming everything (which would've happened in single village revolts anyway).


In any case, it'll either be a big benifit, or won't change anything. Can't see things getting worse from it, so..let's go for it.

I still want my idea to go though.. Go War of the Villages!

I strongly dislike this change, as it removes what I see as the fun parts of influencing, and does nothing to solve the problems I see with influencing. Specifically, it removes the four way conflicts, the arguments over who gets what villages when two orgs are 'allied,' and gives an even greater advantage to communes (due to spores) and who has the most people. It also doesn't solve the divertwhoring issues, the lameness of debating, etc.

Meh. Well, if Seren doesn't massacre everyone next time, I'll be proven wrong.

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