It could be another stagnation and rutine. But it could be also that Celest or any other organisation will check in what village they have best chances to win. Like if there is less Serenwilders in Estelbar then Magnagorans or Glmdorians(sp?) in Acknor, then Celest will go for Ackonr. If they will see that theis chance is against Magnagora they will go there.
Same could be for every other org.

But who knows what will happen. And it also almoust halfs number of influencings. And that isnt too good. Unless they will be revolting twice as oten now.

I have tried several times IC to build a foundation for Shorlen to not hate Glomdoring. Glomdorians basically told him every time, Serenwilde attacks Glomdoring, therefore, Glomdoring has no reason to be reasonable to any Serenwilders at all.

For Shorlen, the issue isn't so much the enslaving anymore even, as it is the slaying of Fae, which both Magnagorans and Glomdorians do. You can't say they don't, it's in our logs.

I mean, I can understand if Fae are attacked in the Etherwilde or the Etherglom because the silvery/shadow honeycakes are STILL BUGGED. I really want them fixed so we can be more hard about the killing of the Fae for any reason, but I just look the other way for now, because misweaves shouldn't be talked about IC. But slaying of neutral Fae? That's clear enough.

I would love for Seren and Glom to come to an understanding, just to change up the conflict if nothing else - it IS possible, and it makes perfect IC sense, especially with the growing dissent about cities in the communes. But first, the Shadowdancers and the Moondancers need to come to an agreement, and the Blacktalon and the Hartstone need to come to an agreement. I'm not sure either of those will ever happen :\\

I was one of them yeah (been in the bloody guild since the start ) but I'm just saying most of the Moondancers didn't get really worked up about Glomdoring until the Fae got involved.

Doubt Serenwilde will ever come to any kind of agreement with Glomdoring, if I can help it anyway. Dropping Celest, sure, if they do something that really deserves it.

Light-lover

You just like Aquamancers cause they give your little fox-butt baths and keep you free of too much excess fur so you don't clog up the turret.

How bias!

doubt it.

Or if we do

I'd much rather it be Celest than us. *punt Shorlen*

*undermine's Shiri's work by giving Shorlen a cookie*

We'd need Moondancer, Shadowdancer, Hartstone and Blacktalon GMs to come to an agreement, and the gods would have to be willing. Since both Viravain and Lisaera are pushing for more conflict, I don't see that happening in the near future.

I realize it could be interesting to have some event where Glomdoring and Serenwilde are forced to work together temporarily to achieve some common objective... but I really, really hope we don't see a commune alliance.

Serenwilde and Glomdoring are polar opposites of each other, a long-term friendship just wouldn't be right.

In the meantime, a Celest vs. Serenwilde war will be a nice change of pace.

I wouldn't like to see any type of permanent alliance or cooperation, not even Celest + Serenwilde and Mag + Glom. But I would like to see a state of neutrality where everyone is equally hostile to everyone else and alliances/wars appear and disappear suddenly.

Are we? I haven't spoken on anything to do with Glomdoring since... actually, I don't remember the last time I did. I'm also fairly sure Viravain hasn't been inciting any kind of conflict with Serenwilde recently. I'm pretty sure you guys just hallucinate us doing stuff for the purposes of your arguments.

You know what I find quite funny about the Angkrag revolt? Diamante went into Angkrag solely with the intention of removing the Mags so that Glom could come in and influence.. he no doubt had good reasons for this.. but unfortunately he brought in Munsia who promptly killed every Glom who he'd had so much trouble getting there. If you want to bring about some sort of truce with Glom, you're going to have to rein in the loose cannons.

i'm pretty shure that the ebonguard and serenguard agree, and that in Lady Viravain's help file it says they respected serenwilde for being another forest, although i'm not shure about serenwilde, i was one of them trying to push for glomdoring being accepted and finnaly left cause i couldn't figure out what they had against it and glomdoring still seemed like it wanted peace. but tsaephai's stupid and always thought that taint was some sort of carnivourous mold or something like that .

Forests should ally, then ally with Celest, then go and burn Magnagora to the ground making sure is Celest who does the biggest effort, then burn exhausted Celest to the ground, and finally just split the basin in two and start planting trees each one in a half.

See? Alliances can be useful!

Or maybe our aquamancers illusion these things at the moonhart to prevent any form of Glom/seren alliance.

Also just having made a Glom alt and reading some of the novice scrolls. I really doubt GLOMDORING wants and alliance. I mean it's all about destroy hart and spread the only good forest.

Does that mean you'll listen to me if I ask you to kiss and make nice with Viravain?

Seriously, though: a lot of RP is geared towards hating people right now. I just don't like how being enemies with someone became a sort of inherent trait of each organization; I'd like the Basin to be more chaotic and morally ambiguous, instead of that polarized fight.

Morally ambiguous does not necessarily equate to self-serving and unprincipled. The closer we get to "do whatever you like, just don't hurt business", the worse Lusternia's immersion will become.

I find that to be a very limited and close minded view.

You can take a stand on things without being a zealot.