I'm revewing some of the older threads on this board, and I have a few questions?

There was a small group of people who actively quested to develop the commune. So why, after all that effort, did people who seemed to really want to create the commune not end up in power? And why did it seem former Serenwilde end up in charge?

I'm just curious if this ended up causing a sense of eunni in players. So I am trying to understand what happened and what "went wrong". I see player names like Visaeris, Guido and Jack, and Enrion--and none of them are around.

Figured I'd ask.

Basically, the original Crows weren't really the leadership sort.

The storyline that brought Glomdoring into existance started with a happy, cheerful Viravain. Her order was made up of mostly Serens. When she went crazy, the Serens refused to abandon her, and a lot of them ended up geting sucked into her dellusions. Because Viravain was jumbled between pre and post Kethuru, she favored people who had been with her since the beginning. And so Gwynevere became the Queen of the Night.

Then Bau was elected by Glomdoring itself. They picked someone who was there at the time rather than waiting for other options. I hear Arilyon was a big favorite, but she just wasn't there. I'm not sure if it was required that they pick someone who was there at that moment, or if they just chose not to wait.

And then Chade and Daganev were both former Mags. I think Daganev was a good choice for the Ebonguard, actually, but I have no clue why Chade was selected as the first Dark Marshall.

I wasn't involved with Glomdoring, and while I was there when it came back, nobody really knew what was going on in there and I'm notorious for not paying attention. However, Visaeris, Guido, Jack and Enrion weren't very nice or sane people, and Viravain (Correctly, most people seem to think) decided to choose other people for the key roles inside Glomdoring.

To look good in Ashs family tree, of course.
But as I hear, Glomdoring had some action the last few weeks. Maybe not positive kind of action, but at least it has some fighting to forge mighty fighters in the fires of deadly war

The Summer Court became the Shadow Court, for the most part (which is where a lot of the original Serens came from, following Viravain).

Visaeris, Guido, Jack and Erion didn't become leaders because they were all PUNKS.

And the Court hated them all! Well, except Guido, he had suicided by then.

More seriously though, I think they didn't end up as leaders because they were all unstable characters, known for controversial actions. Newly created commune required stability, it was a tough time for Glomdoring to develop. It's just my opinion.

Guido, Jack and Erion are or were playing different characters later on, don't know about Visaeris.

Visaeris joined Celest and went inactive pretty soon thereafter.

Guido's version of DoC (which, coinci-frigging-dentally, was funded almost entirely by me) was all secret and 1337 and had people from all over the place. Then Erion invited Bricriu in, Bricriu went that Magnagorans were a part of the endeavour, Guido retaliated by trying to start a War between the Demon Lords... then Erion made his own Glomdoring clan, Jack went , tried to kill Erion and left for Celest, and Visaeris came back solely to become alcholic then join Celest.

So yeah, we were all punks.

The problem was that the original crows were noone you'd want in any leadership position. Chade was the best choice for dark marshall, because he was a damned good leader, Gwynevere getting Queen of Night made me laugh so much because it was a good choice and people went completely crazy, and.. yeah

The unfortunate thing was that the original crow group had mostly self-destructed (it seemed from the outside anyway) before the scheduled release of Glomdoring, and there were only a few remaining devotees.

It is also easy to forget that there were two different factions questing for Glomdoring, the Summer Court and the Disciples of Crow. When the Summer Court 'lost' their dream of Gloriana, Viravain offered them a chance to still be a part of the new commune anyway, and fortunately quite a few accepted. (And I lost my clan, I think it became one of the leadership ones ).

I think that was both nice in the sense of giving a small victory to the losers as the Disciples had the Glomdoring they always wanted, and also in the sense that Xenthos, Jasper, etc were excellent boons to the fledgeling organization. I think it would have turned out -quite- differently if Visaeris et. al. were in charge of the decision-making.

Wrong.

Me and Guido financed and created DoC v.2 very shortly before the Glomdoring event began, and had over thirty people. The Dark Council consisted of me, Erion and Richter.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Visaeris had got Marshall.

It would have been interesting, for sure. But that could have been a bad interesting, or a very good interesting... it could have gone either way.

Mmm, clans. And we never lost our dream, the Glomdoring was restored! Just, Crow liked to still be called Crow and insisted that we still call the forest Glomdoring.

Taint-Madness!

Don't worry, Elryn saved a few untainted/wyrded saplings from when psycho-happy Viravain restored parts of the forest... gonna grow a new Gloriana. Yep!

If anyone wants a great story of it seek out Ibaesha.

She had story-time with a bunch of Moondancers awhile back, it was fun.

I'd actually be somewhat interested in hearing her story, OOCly- would be interesting to see how it differs from what I experienced.

Glomdoring's formation had at least four groups in modern history. The Disciples of Crow, then a 'second' Disciples of Crow, the Summer Court, and the Night Coven.



I agree.

I was there at the start but was one of the many who quit in disgust when Viravain kicked out the 4th (5th?) person who had previously quested/rped for the commune to be made, some of them for like 6 months RL, because they weren't in her order, which was mainly composed of people who only started talking about Glomdoring after it had been made. All in all it was a very unimpressive "leadership" to be under and one can see how it's turned out for the commune, to the lack of surprise of pretty much everyone. It was a big part of why I stopped playing Lusternia for around 9 months though I'm recently back.