Unknown2006-02-24 07:12:19
I think it's about both, and both can be seen from the two views I put forth.
The story implies more or less that the school and teachers went like, gosh, poor weakling kids are getting mental issues over losing at a game, we must ban it and make sure everyone plays fair! Which, as I said, is more than likely just a very minor side aspect of it, if at all.
Or then again maybe that's just my natural BILD-Zeitung-nourished scepticism regarding certain parts of the press.
The story implies more or less that the school and teachers went like, gosh, poor weakling kids are getting mental issues over losing at a game, we must ban it and make sure everyone plays fair! Which, as I said, is more than likely just a very minor side aspect of it, if at all.
Or then again maybe that's just my natural BILD-Zeitung-nourished scepticism regarding certain parts of the press.
Cwin2006-02-24 08:22:53
You know the funny thing about all this?
I was...ok, I am still one of those 'weaklings'. I can bearly throw, or lift anything. I have poor endurance but a strong will so I can push myself farther than I should. I'm small. I'm not all that great looking, and I'm dreadfully shy. In short, I was a floormat in school, and one of the ones that the school 'wants to protect'.
However, the ONE place.. the ONE :censored: place in that sewer they call call a school system where I could feel something OTHER than depressed were these 'harsh' games. Tag, Murder, floor hockey, capture the flag. When I go in there, I would be too slow, or too weak, or butterfingers, but you know what? I was STILL the one that NEVER got more than 3 letters, and trust me, I went for that ball. I was the one the 'cool kids' went past in hockey, only to slip the ball away from you. I was the one that, after 10 times of getting beat on would STILL be in your face.
And I liked that. I knew that, unlike dating, or being a socialite, I wasn't cursed to ALWAYS lose. I knew that the idiots telling me to get lost could, for ONCE, eat their words because in competition, I don't have to listen to them. You can laugh when I fall, or aim to knock me down but I STILL made that point, and I STILL dodged your hit and that's ALL that matters.
I doubt I'm the only one like that.. and their taking that away.
I was...ok, I am still one of those 'weaklings'. I can bearly throw, or lift anything. I have poor endurance but a strong will so I can push myself farther than I should. I'm small. I'm not all that great looking, and I'm dreadfully shy. In short, I was a floormat in school, and one of the ones that the school 'wants to protect'.
However, the ONE place.. the ONE :censored: place in that sewer they call call a school system where I could feel something OTHER than depressed were these 'harsh' games. Tag, Murder, floor hockey, capture the flag. When I go in there, I would be too slow, or too weak, or butterfingers, but you know what? I was STILL the one that NEVER got more than 3 letters, and trust me, I went for that ball. I was the one the 'cool kids' went past in hockey, only to slip the ball away from you. I was the one that, after 10 times of getting beat on would STILL be in your face.
And I liked that. I knew that, unlike dating, or being a socialite, I wasn't cursed to ALWAYS lose. I knew that the idiots telling me to get lost could, for ONCE, eat their words because in competition, I don't have to listen to them. You can laugh when I fall, or aim to knock me down but I STILL made that point, and I STILL dodged your hit and that's ALL that matters.
I doubt I'm the only one like that.. and their taking that away.
ferlas2006-02-24 10:22:14
QUOTE(Yrael @ Feb 23 2006, 09:40 PM) 261750
My theory is that the principal can't run fast enough to stop the kids getting him. Sometimes, I think no new crazy thing can emerge from somewhere in the US, but then you see this. Yeesh.
Yea seriously tag is overpowered nerf tag.
But come on kids are designed to take a beating and get up fine They bounce! Only kidding but kids cant be protected for ever ya know gotta take down their bubble sometime why not in a game of tag where the worst that can happen is they graze their knee.
Daganev2006-02-24 21:15:42
QUOTE(David @ Feb 23 2006, 11:12 PM) 261896
I think it's about both, and both can be seen from the two views I put forth.
The story implies more or less that the school and teachers went like, gosh, poor weakling kids are getting mental issues over losing at a game, we must ban it and make sure everyone plays fair! Which, as I said, is more than likely just a very minor side aspect of it, if at all.
Or then again maybe that's just my natural BILD-Zeitung-nourished scepticism regarding certain parts of the press.
I don't know.. I was just reading an article in the L.A times about Harvard, where the students are in support of the admin, while the teachers are not. The teachers are quoted as saying "I wouldn't say that the student body is Conservative, they are just careerists. Its understandable that they wouldn't undertand the importance of education since they come from an increased amount of minority households, and all they see college as is an opportunity to get ahead."
There is an increasingly exposed flawed thinking process when it comes to the american Education establishment. One teacher in the article said that the Harvard student body is too american and less elitist than it should be.
ferlas2006-02-24 21:24:39
QUOTE(daganev @ Feb 24 2006, 09:15 PM) 262027
Its understandable that they wouldn't undertand the importance of education since they come from an increased amount of minority households, and all they see college as is an opportunity to get ahead."
Edcuation for the sake of education you mean?
There is an increasing trend of schools not actually teaching the principles behind the subject and just teaching the methods required to pass an exam if thats the kind of thing your talking about.
Daganev2006-02-24 21:36:53
Well my own education in University went a bit like this...
Teacher : book A says Theory X..
Me: But doesn't book B say Theory Y?
Teacher: perhaps, but we don'th ave time to go over that, and its not part of this class. Now make sure you say Book A and Theory X for the test or you will fail.
Me: I thought university was for an open exchange of ideas...
Teacher: It is, but not in this class, you will experience in the world world that sometimes you need to do what you don't want to do first before your able to do what you want to do.
Me: Ok makes sense... (3 years later, I've never looked up book B or theory Y...)
Teacher: Why don't the students care about education anymore?
As for what the teacher ment by that quote.. I have no idea what they ment, but it sounded alarmingly stupid, arrogant, and racist to me.
From my own experience, and in contrast to my private school education.. the teacher would often be willing to go on hour long tangents if a student brought up a good question, and then the teacher would change the test a bit, to offer a question on what was discussed as opposed to what was on the lesson plan.
Teacher : book A says Theory X..
Me: But doesn't book B say Theory Y?
Teacher: perhaps, but we don'th ave time to go over that, and its not part of this class. Now make sure you say Book A and Theory X for the test or you will fail.
Me: I thought university was for an open exchange of ideas...
Teacher: It is, but not in this class, you will experience in the world world that sometimes you need to do what you don't want to do first before your able to do what you want to do.
Me: Ok makes sense... (3 years later, I've never looked up book B or theory Y...)
Teacher: Why don't the students care about education anymore?
As for what the teacher ment by that quote.. I have no idea what they ment, but it sounded alarmingly stupid, arrogant, and racist to me.
From my own experience, and in contrast to my private school education.. the teacher would often be willing to go on hour long tangents if a student brought up a good question, and then the teacher would change the test a bit, to offer a question on what was discussed as opposed to what was on the lesson plan.
Nyla2006-02-24 21:39:34
QUOTE(Cwin @ Feb 23 2006, 11:24 AM) 261687
Apperently there was an imbalance between the different players that couldn't be fixed, so they considered the game unusable.
Oh well. MURDER* could be used as a more fair replacement. Less pure running and more ways to use your talents (can't run? Aim well. Can't aim? Dodge well? overall weak? Don't get the ball ALL the time!).
*= Basic concept: kids fling ball against a wall. If you touch the ball and drop it, you run to the wall before someone else hits you with the ball. Fail and you get a letter (starts with M, next is U, then R.. until MURDER). Getting all letters means standing on wall and getting slammed by ball.
You mean wallball?
Daganev2006-02-24 21:43:12
Wallball, Murder.. horse, spoons, pig, same thing!
(yes I know horse and spoons are nothing like wallball or like eachother.)
(yes I know horse and spoons are nothing like wallball or like eachother.)
ferlas2006-02-24 21:44:30
O yea that’s exactly what im talking about daganev, you weren't really taught any literary skills in that particular lesson you were taught what to say to pass an exam
Manjanaia2006-02-24 22:27:38
QUOTE(Cwin @ Feb 24 2006, 08:22 AM) 261902
You know the funny thing about all this?
I was...ok, I am still one of those 'weaklings'. I can bearly throw, or lift anything. I have poor endurance but a strong will so I can push myself farther than I should. I'm small. I'm not all that great looking, and I'm dreadfully shy. In short, I was a floormat in school, and one of the ones that the school 'wants to protect'.
However, the ONE place.. the ONE :censored: place in that sewer they call call a school system where I could feel something OTHER than depressed were these 'harsh' games. Tag, Murder, floor hockey, capture the flag. When I go in there, I would be too slow, or too weak, or butterfingers, but you know what? I was STILL the one that NEVER got more than 3 letters, and trust me, I went for that ball. I was the one the 'cool kids' went past in hockey, only to slip the ball away from you. I was the one that, after 10 times of getting beat on would STILL be in your face.
And I liked that. I knew that, unlike dating, or being a socialite, I wasn't cursed to ALWAYS lose. I knew that the idiots telling me to get lost could, for ONCE, eat their words because in competition, I don't have to listen to them. You can laugh when I fall, or aim to knock me down but I STILL made that point, and I STILL dodged your hit and that's ALL that matters.
I doubt I'm the only one like that.. and their taking that away.
Same here. I'm overweight but at school in PE I run harder, play better and win more than most of the skilled people. And I'm highly unconfident. Sport can be such a good way of building confidence, as can these games. I think taking them away takes a massive part of a child's development away.
Acrune2006-02-24 22:32:23
QUOTE(Manjanaia @ Feb 24 2006, 05:27 PM) 262066
Same here. I'm overweight but at school in PE I run harder, play better and win more than most of the skilled people. And I'm highly unconfident. Sport can be such a good way of building confidence, as can these games. I think taking them away takes a massive part of a child's development away.
Yup, before you know it, we'll have dozens of wimpy little kids who cry at age 15 when things don't go there way and demand that things be changed
Verithrax2006-02-24 22:35:06
God... if they banished tag for creating self-esteem issues and grief...
Lusternia's doomed!
Lusternia's doomed!
Acrune2006-02-24 22:41:54
QUOTE(Verithrax @ Feb 24 2006, 05:35 PM) 262078
God... if they banished tag for creating self-esteem issues and grief...
Lusternia's doomed!
Manjanaia2006-02-24 22:42:11
Actually, for some reason this reminds me of an episode of Recess.
They take away Recess (Ree sess) because they think it is worsening test scores. Test scores get worse, so they implement... Recess! (Reck ess) to make things better again.
I can see it happening like that.
They take away Recess (Ree sess) because they think it is worsening test scores. Test scores get worse, so they implement... Recess! (Reck ess) to make things better again.
I can see it happening like that.
Acrune2006-02-24 22:42:42
Yrael2006-02-24 22:52:10
I wonder what they'd think of Bullrush? Especially since by the second run it normally devolves into a game of tackle football without a ball. Or that pansy padding you 'mericans use. That, or "JUMP ON THE GUY IN THE MIDDLE DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY."
Ahem.
Ahem.
ferlas2006-02-25 15:57:05
QUOTE(Acrune @ Feb 24 2006, 10:32 PM) 262073
Yup, before you know it, we'll have dozens of wimpy little kids who cry at age 15 when things don't go there way and demand that things be changed
OMG Kids are going to turn into forum trolls?
Shamarah2006-02-25 18:35:02
QUOTE(Cwin @ Feb 23 2006, 12:24 PM) 261687
*= Basic concept: kids fling ball against a wall. If you touch the ball and drop it, you run to the wall before someone else hits you with the ball. Fail and you get a letter (starts with M, next is U, then R.. until MURDER). Getting all letters means standing on wall and getting slammed by ball.
"murder"? That's called wallball, silly!
EDIT: Oh, someone already said that. Oh well.