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I'm gonna agree with Narsrim on this one.

Two assaults should not be death through wounding, especially with no other method of preventing assault other than running or hindering.

But it's very easy to hinder warriors. Web alone is an incredible offensive power, and you can near instantly tie up a good warrior long enough that they won't be able to ever hit you.

Hindering depends on size, really. If you are a shadowlord faeling ebonguard, it is not easy to hinder you. Likewise, web isn't that effective. Trust me, try webbing daevos and see if he never hits you. Or murphy.

oi I'm aslaran, and web alone isn't meant to prevent anyone hitting you, you need to do other things too. Shieldstun smaller size people, cast gust at them, mana drain them, set hexes and allhex+aeon.

You know what to do, its just you aren't doing it in groups because other people are hitting you with other things, hence why group combat is silly and imbalanced, don't be such a teamer -duck-

Psh. 2 assault beheads are lame. I how you will agree.

Yes 2 asault behead kills are lame.

However, in 1v1 combat you shouldn't have a problem with holding down a pureblade's offence, its just in groups they own because other people bringing your head low sucks.

Nerf behead, but give pureblade and axelord better offensive stuff and i think you'll find it be a lot fairer.

Any reasonable combatant would trade group prowess for better one on one combat, unless they are unskilled and lame and thusly undeserving of any offence whatsoever if they can't link together a few attacks and develop come nice synergy in their offence.

Amen, sister Murphy.

Axe lords and pureblades are a good bit different, I can see an axe lord getting damage kills with the stuns, deangelos sweep is just a bit less scary for me than ixions lunge added with the stuns you can get with low wounding damage kills are big option for axelords, I cant see pureblades going for the damage though as they need decent wounding to tendon for the hindering. I wanna see the envoy reports though, cant wait should be some nice stuff.

I've wondered how easily I could knockdown stun as a BC with similar stat flails. Same damage but +stun= mmmm

with really low wounding flails but big damage, they go ok however, you will have to do a double crush and then you won't guarantee a knockdown either.

I switched from damage BC to speed BC now for a reason

Yes. The point for Guardians and Wiccans is that they're meant to hinder warriors so they can't use their powerful abilities continuously. And Narsrim is correct, even though warriors are meant to be hard to kill and hard-hitters, killing someone in two hits is not the way it's meant to be, unless there's a large disparity in levels.

Anyway, as was covered in the summit from which these quotes are taken, both the forging standards for weapons and the knighthood abilities themselves are going to be reviewed, not in an attempt to weaken the warriors, but in an attempt to balance them.

<3 Lisaera....give us warriors some abilities that only work while the enemy is prone to play with..

And thats what i like about wounds, not so much as behead or whatever but no matter the level of your enemy, you can kill them just as easily, it all boils down to skill and i love it.

Compared to what ixion can do now though, he cant get any hinders really fast with blademaster so it is just the damage you have to worry about. As a bone crusher he would have the insane damage he has now and also the chance for a stun which would be nasty in combination.

I don't think you can kill someone with two assaults if they cure thier head... Has anyone tried curing thier head wounds and seeing how many assults it takes to behead them?

The reason I bring that up, is because there is a certain combo which -instantly- puts a person to sleep, and gives them aeon. Now, unless you do things, that are comparable to healing your head between assaults, you are going to die in that combo.

I'd ask why people don't complain about that, but I know it has to do with whom is able to do it vs who its being done to.

You miss the point. Behead was never designed with the intent that two attacks, regardless of whether you cure your head or miss a cure, would hit. It isn't supposed to be that easy.

Likewise, there are several options to fight against aeon and sleep: kafe, insomnia, metawake, quicksilver elixir, etc. There are also several to fight against weapons: rebound, parry, stancing, shield, prismatic barrier, etc.

Unlike assault, there is no attack that by passes all of the defenses let alone by passes them in a SINGLE attack.

Kafe and metawake does not help you much in a Sleep Aeon-type attack, it still takes time for you to wake up. Also quicksilver doesn't stop Sap, which leaves insomnia. To me, insomnia = apply health.

If a person does not cure themselves almost anyone can kill them in two hits.

False, unless it was fixed recently stancing a single limb will greatly increases your chance to avoid all attacks to that limb (including Assault/Sweep/Lunge/Crush). I noticed in both yours and Amaru's logs both of you failed to stance head, which lead to your early death by Behead/Bashbrain. I'm not saying that Behead in two hits isn't a problem but there is a way to get pass it and the answer is obviously just stance head and move your parry around.

Actually, I find stancing head doesn't help at all because if you aren't stancing legs, you are going to be hit with knockdown/sliced tendon every time.



You can't give sleep and aeon at the same time first of all. Second, if you are, you just wake, wait till you wake up, put up metawake, cure aeon, and go.

Insomnia != apply health. You could use insomnia and do anything else at the same time. You could, however, sip health/apply health.

Stance head, parry legs? When I used to fight Daevos with his new swords I would get owned by damage or behead simply because of assault. Then I tried out stancing head the majority of the time and effectively disabled Daevos from beheading or taking out my legs (at only Virt Combat). The point is there is a counter to it, a very effective one, especially if you have Trans Combat.